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Originally Posted by huey
sorry more info on my part needed. yes i meant todays muay thai.
a few more questions that i am curious about:
are injuries due to punching in muay thai as common as they are in boxing? rotator cuff, muscles issues and that sort of thing?
and you brought up kicks, i have seen a lot of kicks from muay thai and kickboxing (as well as other styles) are they the same as far as power, timing, hip release, etc?
i was also wondering if anyone in either art (m/t or k/b) uses kicks that are chambered (learned that term on this forum) because many of the kicks i have seen don't seem to follow the idea. they make a pretty good impact don't get me wrong, but they all seem to stop right after impact. is this because of follow up striking that should happen after a round kick, or is this kind of a feeling out of your opponents reaction? (probably both but i'll ask it nonetheless)
how many kicks do you guys practice, and is there a kick called a crocodile kick?
thanks
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I'm sure punching in MuayThai can cause just as much injuries as in boxing although I've never been injured by a punch.I have been injured with kicks though,because muay thai kicks can be very damaging due to its power.
No the power from Muay Thai kicks are not the same as those in Kickboxing and other styles,in fact MuayThai fighters have the most powerful kicks of all martial arts styles due to the fact that we use our shins to kick and don't pull back,we always go right through with our kicks both in class and competition but will put more power into it in tournaments of course.Many martial artists will argue about the kicks of muay thai saying muay thai isn't the only art that kicks with shins and wasn't the first. It is true that Muay Thai is no longer the only style using shin kicks but many stylists don't realize and refuse to believe that those kicks originally came from the muay thai fighters and have just been incorporated in their styles.Some kickboxers,karate and tkd schools have gotten rid of their original kicks and incorporated the shin kicks of muay thai realizing how powerful the muay thai fighter's kicks are. History proves that we had those kicks first and that others copied due to its power.
Our kicks don't stop at compact and we still follow up with other techniques so no following up has nothing to do with pulling back on kicks and punches.It's more because of fear of hurting opponent and because styles of karate and kung fu are not properly trained for full contact and can't take as much of a powerful hit.I know I will be disagreed and argued with on this but this too has been proven several times yet other stylists again refuse to admit it.
MuayThai has had a long history of conquering other styles in fights and still continues to do so,however that is only as a stand up art.To beat a muay thai fighter you'd have to know both that and grappling.
We practice alot of kicks but I'd say it's about 50 % kicks and 50% punches.You have to realize though shin kicks aren't our only powerful kicks.We have front and rear kicks like any other style but we also have powerful knee kicks originally from MuayThai as well.We don't do much of side kicks though because they can easily be sweeped at least from a Muay Thai fighter.We have a kick where we can also use foot as a hook to throw a person off balance while kicking with the shins.
What the hell is a crocodile kick? I've never heard of this even in karate.
To get an idea of how many kicks we do lets just say for single kicks we sometimes will do 50 shins kicks non-stop with speed and full power and then same thing with other leg,then after we've done that we go back to original leg and do double kicks on each side.
We also do front kicks back and forth for 2 full minutes non-stop. We often do alot of knees from clinching position twisting and turning our opponent around for 3 rounds of 3minutes while throwing knee kicks,it's hard on opponents neck and hard on our knees.A good way to develope power in knees and a good way for other person to strengthen neck.
Then comes punches and different elbow strikes and after that combining the punches and elbows with different kicks like the shin round house kicks,knees,front kicks etc.
Most of our kicks are shin to shin,shin to inner and outter thigh,back of knees,and to body.We sometimes kick to head but not too often as high kicks don't have as much power and muaythai is based not only on technique but power which comes from the speed of our techniques.
Muay Thai is mostly drills and sparring,only time shadow boxing is done is for warming up at beginnng of class and is done for only 3 rounds of 3 minutes.
One thing all arts have in common with kicks though is that we all use our hips to execute the kick unfortunately other styles snapp their kicks bring them back to position at immediate contact as you stated before.
here is more about MuayThai kicks,knees and elbows and the history of MuayThai etc.
http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/press on the link "The Belt is in The Ring" on left side menu.