Vincent Giordano is one of the most knowledgeable people that I have met in reference to the old bare knuckle styles, and he can pretty much give you an idea of what you are asking about is crap. I think he goes under black grass in the martialtalk forums, so you may want to ask there. Also, Jason webster of the US, from what I have heard is very knowedgeable as well. Then there is Ajarn Salty Dog Sanford of the Dog brothers, I know he has done, KArbi, but I do not know how much of the empty hand components he has trained in. I know that the mpty hand forms used to be propagated by the buddai swain sword fighting institute in thailand.
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