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Originally Posted by Sasami2000
I've only seen ATA schools as far as Tae Kwon Do is concerned, and my only thoughts on this are to avoid all ATA schools. Unless, of course, you just want to own a black belt within 2 years and kick fancy, I'd say to stay clear of them. Granted there are a few schools out there that teach ATA and don't suck, but they are so few in numbers. Personally, I think ATA TKD is the reason TKD in general has such a bad name because they aren't really a martial art anymore, they are a business.
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OH NO YOU DIDN'T!

LOL Now come on lets give the ATA a little respect here. There are good instructors in the ATA. I believe there to be more good then bad. If you had a bad experience then that was the school you were at. And you sure as heck aren't getting a blackbelt from the school I go to in two years. If you meet all requirements and don't miss a testing the minimum you can get your blackbelt in is 3 and a half years. There is alot offered in the ATA you just have to take advantage of it. Through the ATA you can get a basic understanding(not a blackbelt) of numersous arts through the many certification programs. They also offer certifications in many other programs like joint locks and many exotic weapons. At Black Belt camp this year the spear was taught. Now as far as the ATA being the reason that taekwondo isn't an art anmore .............Come on!! We all know the WTF is the downfall of taekwondo. Whenever you take a martial art and turn it into a sport with as many limitations as the WTF has you destroy the martial art. Of course there are many good WTF instructors as well though. And I can hear you right now "THE ATA HAS LIMITATIONS ON THERE SPARRING TOO" . Yes we do but if you find a good instructor he is going to realize there is a difference between what an adult can handle and what a child can handle. Just tuesday night I came home with a black eye. During the adult class when we have students there that are interested in full contact he obliges. Tuesday night we had sparring with the only rules being no biting, eye gouging, and once you got them to the ground you could grapple but no pounding on the face. We have alot of fun doing stuff like that. We also box, sparr with weapons, and grapple on a regular occassion. So what we might be the exception. I have one more point before I end my book here. Numbers do mean something and the ATA is the largest martial arts organization in the WORLD. I had it stated to to me before though Quality befor Quanity. That is true. But in most cases it takes quality way before quanity comes into play. Why would it be different for the many many members of the ATA. Every organization has its down falls. Especially when your as big as the ATA you have that many more people to make happy. Grandmaster is doing a good job. It may have taken a while but he is getting things done.