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Old 04-23-2004, 10:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by KONY
I hate the way the media demonized Tyson but not Holyfield after the ear-biting incident. My take on it was that Holyfield was employing dirty tactics (head-butting) that actually incited Tyson to bite his ear.

! I lost so much respect for Holyfield b/c of it. However, I guess he was always the media darling. The media even tried to turn Tyson-Holyfield into a Islam vs. Christianity thing. Stupid. IMO,

I think neither was/is a good representative of their respective faiths. Back to that fight, Tyson was literally crying in the after-fight interview complaining of Holyfield's tactics. Anyone else agree/disagree with me? I can't be the only one.
You have a number of interesting observations about Holyfield and Tyson, and while you are entitled to your opinion There's one in particular that got my attention> You wrote: That you disagreed with the way the media turned the Tyson Holyfield fight into a Christianity vs Islam thing. I am in agreement with that observation, but for you to say that neither was and IS??? a representative of their faiths I think thats a little presumptuous for you to say that based on how they've performed in the ring??? While in all fairness, it's safe to say that we all tend to judge people based on their behavior(and Tyson's HAS been pretty outrageous in and out of the ring) All God knows the struggles and attitudes of a person's heart, and there are many accounts in The Bible where even devout followers of Christ, and Yahweh (in the Old Testament) exhibited "questionable behavior" but nevertheless were men of faith.
I know that this is not a religious forum, and I apologize to those who feel this point should not be brought out, so, having said that, let me go on to your other comments.

You wrote that you guess Holyfield was always a "media darling" Well, if he was a so called media darling, it's because he earned their respect and attention. Compared to other fighters, Hoyfield was articulate, a family man, had a strong work ethic, and had a scientific approach to boxing and training. It's no wonder the media gravitated towards him. Tyson on the other hand, ( and by the way, I AM a fan of Tyson also, after all he came from my hometown of brooklyn! Did nothing but present himself as a thug and a criminal. Making comments like, "I want to eat his children" doesnt endear you to the media, it only makes you appear to be a madman. Tyson was supposed to be "boxing Royalty." He was the last great fighter trained by Cus D amato, and I always hoped that he would somehow carry Cus's legacy with dignity and honor, Call it sentimental,but for me, Tyson was supposed to be "the last jedi". What a dissapointment.

You wrote:
Holyfield was employing dirty tactics (head-butting) that actually incited Tyson to bite his ear.

The way I saw the fight, Tyson was gettin' his HYNIE WAXED and in order to "save face" or to solidify his street credibility (because it would have been mud had he not done this) he bit Holyfields ear. I also think he did it out of anger and frustration for not being able to get off his punches or get out of the way of Holyfields punches. I know that you probably have done some kickboxing or boxing yourself and headbutting is something that occurs in the heat of battle. Sometimes it's accidental as you may unintentially duck down as the same time your opponent does. Tyson was no rank amatuer. If he felt he was being fouled, there were other "more legal" things he could have done in retailiation as a ring progessional. He could have hit Holyfield with his inner or outher forearm, he could have "accidently" hit him with an elbow after "missing " a hook or uppercut. He could have jabbed and accidently stepped on his foot, he could have "accidently" palmed/thumbed him(Ali even loved to do that) But he did NONE of those things because he just couldnt get off. So he bit his ear like a big baby.
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