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Old 07-02-2004, 03:23 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Seismic Anamoly
Counter to Bruce Lee incorporating Boxing into his JKD, however, is Wong Shun Leung (Bruce Lee's elder student and Yip Man's senior student instructor in Hong Kong). Who was a golden glove boxer and left boxing for Wing Chun. Wong Shun Leung felt Wing Chun was more complete and efficient. A fact often overlooked by skeptics and misinformed people. Food for thought. Peace.
Of course Wing chun is more complete; the art includes elbows, knees and kicks - not to mention spear fingers and palm strikes.

At the time you are talking about (HK circa 1960??), what choices of MA's did you have? wing chun, taiji, choy lay fut and maybe Hung Gar?? There were the famous bare knuckle roof top challenges amongs wc practionters but also between wc and clf. What if traditional muay thai training was available in HK at that time? Those 6 kung-fu fighters might have had different results in their trip to Thailand.

But, these rooftop fights were all illegal, secret with the respective sifu's top students that studied at least a decade or more.

Take a beginning kung-fu student whose been practicing for 6 months in forms, stances and basic self defense techniques and pit him against a boxer who has done nothing but conditioning, focus mitt work, and regular contact sparring - the kung fu guy doesn't stand a chance.

10 years down the line, I would say maybe the kung-fu fighter has a chance, depending on how he trains; if he gets into competitive san shou, he would win no doubt, but traditional kung fu training I can't say for sure.

Anywho, I'm not trying to diss kung fu because I think it has a lot to offer someone who is looking for good excercise, wisdom, health and some self-defense. I'm saying that traditional kungfu fighting methods take much longer to develop good fighters.
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