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Originally Posted by gregimotis
local photagrapher had his work displayed at a coffee house here (Santa Fe has a lot of artists). The photographs were 90% nude women and most of them were pretty tasteful (i.e. beauty of form/not overtly sexual), but some of them lingered well into soft porn - one showing a woman's bent over backside as she peeled off her thong.
Anyway, customers complained and the display was taken down. The artist got a write up in the paper where he complained that he just wanted to show the beauty of the human form etc., and it just goes to show how prudish everybody is that we can't look at naked people without sexualizing them yada yada. The irony of course, is that some of his pictures were clearly sexual, and his claim that they were not was dishonest.
Now to bring this little story around to the thread - On the surface this thread is about why people can't appreciate the human form without getting uptight and why someone always wants to ban nudity.
What's happened from the first post on, however, is not a discussion of nudity, but rather a discussion of Nude Hot Chicks (hereafter referred to as NHC). We agree that we don't want to appreciate the beauty of fat or old women, and nobody so much as mentions nude guys (except one reference to Greece, but that wasn't a vote for nude guys either).
So - I put to the comittee that it is exactly as Oso stated earlier. The people that 'don't like nudity' are actually not opposed to tasteful nudity (probably), they are opposed to porn or perhaps public sexuality (the dirty little thoughts in your heads). Further, they are not fooled by the claim by that artist that his pictures weren't sexual (they clearly were) - they also aren't fooled by conversations like this one which are sort of about 'the human form' but really are about NHC.
My point is pretty obvious by now - There are plenty of prudes who don't like anything remotely sexual - but there are also plenty of guys trying to convince everybody that they are about 'beauty' not nudie pics... they also read playboy for the articles.
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When I started this thread, I meant about the beauty of the human form, not pics of women in porn positions, like with their legs wide open facing the camera, or bent over peeling off a thong; I do not read Playboy magazine or any of those. I meant about what I just said; female beauty. Male physical beauty is fine as well, and I very very much love the physical form of the male physique. Maybe that makes me sound homosexual, but I am not (not that I hold anything against homosexuals). But if you are a guy, and say, "I love the beauty of the male physique," people interpret that as sexual. I am a very visual person. I love aesthetically beautiful things. Now, I will admit, I do prefer to look at females because I am a guy, so I am attracted to them, but the sexuality that makes me prefer to look at nude women pics (not porn, the artistic nude women pics) is more of a romantic kind of admiration, an artistic kind. It's hard to explain. It is not a purely sexual, "I'd love to see her pussy" type of admiration. I love women, and I love the shape of the female figure. Looking at porn, there is no beauty. You just get an erection and the animal drive in you starts up. Looking at pictures displaying the beauty of the human form arouses the artistic appreciation in you.
I am not attracted to men sexually, but I just love the male physique. I love bodybuilding in that sense. Having that look. That is what drives bodybuilders to become what they are. They LOVE that look of the male physique and they say, "I wanna look like that." But most people are narrow-minded and won't understand a guy if he words that as, "I love the beauty of the male physique." It just doesn't sound right I guess.
My point was in reference to people being uptight though over nude pictures showing the beauty of the human form, overall, not people being uptight over pictures showing stuff like a girl bent over. If you wanna show the butt, just take pictures of the girl from the back. Then people think, "Wow, that woman has a nice form." (if you photograph it right). But if you take a picture of the woman bent over, sticking her butt at the camera, that purely implies raw dirty sex.
Now, I mean, if you love porn, FINE, look at it, but it should not be forced on people. And I can understand I guess why some people would hate seeing porn on display, because of what it represents in people. Nude pictures showing the beauty of the female physique or male physique I don't think should be forced on people either because some people are just strongly opposed to any form of nudity and America is about people's rights. My gripe is, with the pictures that display physical beauty, I just don't understand WHY people would get so uptight over that. There's a big difference between porn pictures and pictures meant to display the beauty of the human figure. I can understnad people hating porn pics, but I don't get why anyone would hate the artistic pics. Like you said Gregimotis, a lot of people probably don't, and just knew that that guy's pics were sort of porn-like. But a LOT of people are opposed to any nudity at all (like my grandmother haha).