There are no 'certanties' in fighting, especially on the street, the guy I mentioned throwing he's oppenent to the floor is a 5th degree Judo instructor, but has won 90% of he's fights with punches (I asked him many yrs ago when I trained with him).
I won't post he's name cus there is no point (he's not law abiding
to say the least).
I studied Judo with him for 5 yrs and I've never needed to resort to any of my 'grappling' training in a streetfight to this day.
There was a top Judo guy called 'Georges Medhi' that taught ppl like Mario Sperry, Rickson Gracie etc He too would say "no point getting your clothes dirty if can finish the fight on your feet".
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Originally Posted by gregimotis
I still think the rules of the poll are weighted against the grappler postion. Consider that a good grappler could two-leg takedown or hip throw or otherwise put an opponent down hard on the ground - then forcefully knee-to-stomach and stand right back up without ever really going to the ground himself.
In that case, the fight would likely be over (just being thrown on thier back on a hard surface is going to slow most people down), and all the skills employed are grappling skills.
My point is that many of the skills learned in grappling don't really require commitment to the floor unless your opponent is trained as well - in which case the variables become pointlessly large anyway.
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