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Originally Posted by bodhisattva
Yeah. that's what a lot of people don't understand about the workouts that pro muscle heads post. These guys are on roids.
Sad old world.
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There's still quite a bunch of them to fall back to. Brooks Kubik, Steve Justa, Magnus Samuelson.....all of those guys are powerful as hell. Magnus is a genetic giant to be sure (his first time benching he managed to put up approximately 220lbs!), but Brooks wasn't the biggest of guys until he began throwing iron around.
http://www.brookskubik.com/tips.html then go to the bottom and you can see him clean and jerk a pair of dumbbells that weigh 121 pounds each. The old standards for this exercise back in the day was:
Back in the 1950's, Harry Paschall authored a nifty little chart to determine how strong you were. Here's the Paschall standard for the clean and press (a military press, not a push press) for a 165 pound lifter; a lifter of different bodyweight should adjust the weights up or down:
Moderately strong: 165 pounds
Strong: 200 pounds
Super strong: 225 pounds
"Super Dreadnaught or Hero": 275 pounds
That puts him at about the super-strong range. He also set a bunch of records in drug free powerlifting. Steve Justa was very overweight and a bit on the underdeveloped side, so he began lifting all sorts of awkward objects to save himself the money to buy a gym. Most of his strength was built solely on singles (one-reps). Now take a look at him:
That barrel right there weighs about 480 pounds. Sure he's not hardcore ripped like a bodybuilder, but who do you think is stronger?