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Originally Posted by Derekwl
Well that pretty much says it all
My class is EXACTLY as Tom Yum described it except, just before cool down and after sparring, we do a little self defense. Now believe me when I say this isnt a McDojo by any means. We usually do ground work, i.e. what to do when someone is on top of you throwing a fury of punches at your face, that incorporate Ju Jitsu techniques.
Other then that, what Tom Yum describes is essentially the ideal lesson.
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Its hard to find a muay thai gym that teaches you how to really utilize the clinch, atleast as well as the Thai's do. Sure, you learn the clinch and how to use it, but some of the sweeps and takedowns that the Thai's do from the clinch are crazy.
Some muay thai gyms are a little more lax on their boxing work, in that they spend a little time on the jab & cross and will throw a hook now and then. The result being a guy that can throw a pretty fast 1-2, not too good a hook, no uppercuts, but is really trying to set it up so he can carpet bomb you with some explosive kicks and devastating knees.
If you've ever given/received a knee to the body alone at full contact, it'll sink your ship, but this rarely happens unless you are training with someone who is getting ready for a match.
I think in your regular muay thai training, you get some self-defense from just your regular training, but nothing is perfect. Groundwork is as important too, weapons etc.