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Originally Posted by BoarSpear I figured someone was gonna say that  .....So reality combat sports arent huh? i thought you guys all touted how it had proved to be effective for self defense by evidence of your ring fights...if ring fights are using non reality based technique that completly removes any relevance to the street. |
how can u base an entire art with thousands of practitioners all over the world on 1 mma match? arent u doing the same thing those people do when they see tai chi being practiced in the park by old people and think it sucks? they are basing an entire art on what they have seen from a few people. does that make it right for them to discredit the entire art of tai chi? i mean shit, the tai chi i see being practiced in the park has no resemblance to reality fighting, does that mean the entire art of tai chi with all its combat forms and weapons training is useless? this is the conclusion id come to if i was using your logic.
and btw, ring fights dont need to use "reality based" techniques or even reflect them because they arent real life self defense situations and their practitioners know this. i dont think there is any true martial artist in the world who cant tell the difference between competitions and life or death situations. i dont know were u got the rediculous idea that people who partake in "sport arts" are going to adhere to competition rules in a life or death situation. that is asanine.
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Originally Posted by BoarSpear But even so explain how that was supposed to work in the ring then? Was the idea to guilt Sak into laying down in his guard?
What evolution in the ring made this into a technique? it was a MAJOR part of Roylers game plan... |
i havent seen this match, but ive seen this done before in mma. yes, it is an invitation to the opponent to come and grapple. i personally think its lame and boring to watch. yet again, u are basing an entire art on the actions of 1 person. really narrow minded if u ask me.
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Originally Posted by BoarSpear Next explain this....
If he cant effectively fight in the ring, how is he suddenly capable of striking and takedowns on the street? or are they counting on an unskilled opponent in the street that will allow their poor standup and takedown skills to suffice until the butt flopping becomes effective once the opponent is tired? |
what do u know about what someone is or isnt capable of? mabye in the street he wouldnt even need to use jiu jitsu because he carries a gun with him. i mean, u never know. u can make all the assumptions u want, but didnt u once say yourself that its assumptions like those that get people killed on the street??
btw, i know u like to generalize entire groups of people with no real basis for your conclusions but i want to say that i may practice "sport arts", but the reason i train in them is for self defense. i train in muay thai and bjj at a mma gym, and i like many others train in these arts in order to attain certain attributes that will help me better defend myself. if u think im gonna adhere to rules when someone is trying to take my life from me or a friend, you are dead wrong.