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Originally Posted by BoarSpear Oh you havent watched the fight  ...i provided the link...That isnt just ANY bjj guy...its A GRACIE....i never mentioned rules...you did...you still havent answered my question what it was supposed to accomplish in the ring!!....as for your tai chi analogy...If i saw one of the FOUNDING Family members of any system try to pass that shit off as anything to do with fighting i would laugh...just like i did at that crap....but fine you wanna claim he really can fight, he just chose that in the ring because what happened there didnt matter to the legendary undefeated Gracie clans reputation. and as for the "they fight differently than they train" argument...good luck with that...it seems to me if Royler had anything else to fall back on he would have tried it eh?
I was flaming you about the street since that moronic butt scoot was clearly going to get you killed ANYWHERE you tried it...it didnt do Royler much good even in the ring where i presume he had developed and practiced that move...
So back to my question what the hell is the point? 75% or more of that fight is royler scooting around on all fours with his ass on the floor flicking ineffective kicks at Sak while Sak pounds the hell out of him for it...i really dont see the benifit or strategy to this..was he hoping Sak broke his foot from kicking him so much?
BTW whats the proper name for that butt scoot technique so i dont have to call it the butt scoot?  |
yeah your right. bjj does suck cause royler gracie lost to sak. all that hard work and pain i put myself though, the conditioning, all the escapes from bad positions and finishing holds that i learned, all the clothing manipulations, joint locks, chokes, collar strangulations, sweeps, takedowns, trips, and throws ive learned from my short time in bjj are all useless and actually have not improved my chances of defending myself in the street because u saw royler gracie have a shitty fight vs another grappler(one of the best in the world).
cmon boarspear i dont get u sometimes. i already knew u were a big mma fan, and have mentioned that before. the reason i knew u were such a big mma fan was because u must have really watached alot of mma to have become so insecure about your own training now that u have to try to discredit other arts to feel better.
i already posted a thread containing a link to an online us military hand to hand combat manual. all the ground fighting techniques from jiu jitsu, bjj to be more exact. they even used collar chokes and strangles with their army uniforms. u can check it for yourself and then talk about how jiu jitsu has no value for real self defense. our own military trains techniques from it.
look, i love all martial arts and know that i can learn something from any art and make use of it and i think most martial artists can do the same. do u truly feel that bjj has no self defense values at all? ive been doing bjj for less than a year now, and before that the only grappling i knew was a small amount of judo. if not for training in bjj, i really wouldnt have any grappling skills at all, so for sure my chances of defending myself are better than they were before.
btw boarspear i dont really know you, but with your insecurity and narrow mindedness, u sound like a lousy martial artist. i bet thats why you carry so many weapons on you, cause you are just insecure and this thread of yours proves it even more so than all your other posts were u complain about people bashing arts, then proceed to bash an art yourself like u always do. hypocrisy never sleeps.