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Originally Posted by EmptyneSs yeah your right. bjj does suck cause royler gracie lost to sak. all that hard work and pain i put myself though, the conditioning, all the escapes from bad positions and finishing holds that i learned, all the clothing manipulations, joint locks, chokes, collar strangulations, sweeps, takedowns, trips, and throws ive learned from my short time in bjj are all useless and actually have not improved my chances of defending myself in the street because u saw royler gracie have a shitty fight vs another grappler(one of the best in the world). |
Hey dude i didnt say anything about BJJ in the ring....i said a Gracie...i was under the impression when i saw a gracie fight, i was seeing GJJ in action...
i realize their is a difference in grappling styles, and their focus...my point was the GRACIES overspecialized to the point that it is ridiculous. Royler was PROVEN to be a poor striker and unable to deal with Saks stand up...Royce wasnt exactly an awesome standup fighter either
....they BOTH SUCK at takedowns...I dont care how great you can fight IF i lie down on top of you, Sak wasnt too impressed either
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Originally Posted by EmptyneSs i already posted a thread containing a link to an online us military hand to hand combat manual. all the ground fighting techniques from jiu jitsu, bjj to be more exact. they even used collar chokes and strangles with their army uniforms. u can check it for yourself and then talk about how jiu jitsu has no value for real self defense. our own military trains techniques from it. |
good for you, I POSTED THE FREAKIN VIDEO OF THE ACTUAL FIELD MANUAL...NOWHERE in the course is there ANYTHING REMOTELY SIMILAR to what Royler was doing. sure all those old JUDO chokes work, im glad you BJJ guys like them. all the stuff on the video is what i learned as a KID in the 1960's only it was called combat judo by the military back then. It is a new spin on an old art.
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Originally Posted by EmptyneSs btw boarspear i dont really know you, but with your insecurity and narrow mindedness, u sound like a lousy martial artist. i bet thats why you carry so many weapons on you, cause you are just insecure and this thread of yours proves it even more so than all your other posts were u complain about people bashing arts, then proceed to bash an art yourself like u always do. hypocrisy never sleeps. |
yeah jr, Im insecure...LOL whatever you say man...and yep you got it im a lousy martial artist, thats why i bring all the knives so other people can take them away and use them on me!
......hypocrisy never sleeps and suckers are born every minute.
you still havent explained its ring use, in spite of all the nice personal attacks...would that be because even in the ring it was the dumbest freakin thing possible?