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Originally Posted by Tant01
I see. So the rank modification didn't take long to max out again if there are now at least TWO 15th dan masters (i use the term losely) in the US. If it was Matsumi Sensei intent to distuingish himself he seems to have failed. Why have more than one person at the very top of the rank structure? Even if you change it again to include another five or ten grades above what exists now it would be the next cool Ninja thing to be 25th degree blackbelt...  |
An art can have more than one 10th dan. There are and were multiple people at the top of the ninjitsu ranks for a long time. The title of "Soke", however, is reserved for only one person, the father or grandmaster of the particular Ryu. That being said, it is possible to have 2 or three Soke's within the same art, standing in the same room. For example, I study under a 10th dan in Hoshin Jitsu Ryu, name Soke Murray. He has awared another Soke'ship to a Soke Manning, who practices the same art, but is the Soke of a branch that he himself created off of Hoshin Jitsu Ryu, called Circle Point System. Then there is another Soke Lorenzo, who has focused more on the sticks. Once they reach the master ranks, they tend to branch out into their own field of studies, so to speak, and bring what they learn back into HJR.
That being said, I still don't agree with the 15 level system, and if this is true that there are at least 2 15th's in the States, that only serves to further my disdain. Anyone know where Haye's is ranked now?
-Hikage