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Originally Posted by MmaFighter152
The most effective KICKING(Punching,Elbowing,Clinching and kneeing too) martial art is unarguably MUAY THAI. Taekwondo uses your FOOT to kick all areas of the body, especially high points which is completely ineffective against an opponent trained to fight in Muay Thai boxing, Kickboxing(Same Thing!), and even Boxing. TKD, kung fu, karate, etc., do not teach one how to properly kick in a fight or even in gentle sparring. I have taken TKD and when I sparred with the dojo's "Master"(a 6th degree i think), I litteraly kicked his ass until he couldnt stand just with basic Muay Thai kicks(No Punches because I would have broke his face). Two TKD blackbelts or any Kung fu, TMartists fighting full contact looks like a joke. Put them up against any one trained in Muay Thai for a few weeks and the MT guy's opponent, no matter what rank, will get smoked!
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Most TKD dojangs are family dojangs, good for you beating up what was most likely a fat middle aged to old man. Heh.
Alot of successful full contact fighters have a base in TKD, meaning they were black belts that learned to fight in the rule set of whatever competitve ring they got into (K1, Muay thai etc..) If you throw a TKD guy in a muay thai rule set without preparing him for the change in rules then he will most surely lose. But you cant judge an art based on changing the rules on him and seeing how well he copes, a muay thai pro would lose in a TKD format. The TKD guy would score his points and dance away, does that mean muay thai sucks? Of course not. Its like putting a judo expert in the ring with a boxer and making them fight boxing rules and judging judo as lame because he gets his ass beat. Or vice versa. By the way muay thai pros have gone in the ring in TKD in Thailand and they lost horribly, however when they convert, they are extremely good. The big champion here last year was a muay thai pro that trained up in TKD to black belt and then won all the tournaments. But he had to learn the TKD game in order to do that.
The best kicking art is TKD. Name another art that focuses virtually 100% of it's training time and resources to kicks. I train in several arts, Shaolin Kenpo, Muay thai, TKD, boxing and submission grappling. I love muay thai and TKD but TKD over specialises in kicks, nothing else will give you the same level of kicking expertise after 10 years of training. But if you want basic solid self defence kicks RIGHT NOW than take muay thai. The kicks are simple and effective and easier to master faster. But Muay thais kicks are limitted and only offer a few angles of attack. A true kicking expert will come from the art that devotes all its training time to kicking.
I've fought muay thai in the ring in Thailand, and I fought my opponent using muay thai but I dropped him using a TKD spinning kick. Does that mean Muay Thai sucks and cant beat TKD? No it means I was better than my opponent.
Damian Mavis
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