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Originally Posted by Tom Yum
No tantrum here. Is "taking off the helmet" a neck crank done with bad intentions?
I believe shuai jiao and chin na both have alot of good stuff. The closest methods that I've come to those kinds of techniques are from the tukong musool system (Chinese influence, Korean synthesized).
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hey Tom i knew YOU were too mature for a roll eyed tantrum
yes its similiar to a neck crank done with VERY bad intention...often times the person executing will jump into the air as though swinging around a flag pole, while hanging on to your head instead of the flag pole