Hi kurt_myers0369,
Have yer tried checking out : mastersken.com
He teaches ring techniques and also the traditional techniques as well. Master Sken has over 40yrs training and teaching. Also he's couple of dvd's you might care to purchase, and many more to come. To see Master Sken when he was younger check out "youtube". When you watch the clips from his site remember he's over 50yrs old and still going strong.
mcgg
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