Originally Posted by Uke

Exactly. Its like a Civil War reenactment. Its as close as you can come to reality without the reality. You've got the uniforms and guns with no bullets.

Let me ask you something: What's the difference between kickboxing in the old days of Chuck Norris and Bill Wallace and MMA of today aside from the BJJ thrown in? The answer is that there is no difference except kickboxers were better at standup. They still are today, as we see MMA fighters getting knocked out left and right once they venture out of the waters of mediocrity and into elite kickboxing events like K-1.

The same thing happens once MMA fighters wander over to elite grappling events like the Abu Dhabi.

In other words, the so called evolution that is MMA is great as long as they stay in the pond where their talents are about equal.



Now you've made it clear that you full of shit. How is everything in MMA geared towards practicality and they will circle each other for sometimes over a minute before engaging each other? That's practical? Is that supposed to be "as close to reality as you can get"? Are flying armbars and flopping to the guard a part of that practicality too? Is shooting in practical when you don't know what you're shooting into?



Get the hell out of here. Those are the exception, not the rule. For every MMA match that ended quickly you've got 20 more than went to the cards. I've seen Gracie have a match that lasted over 20 minutes. His match was Severn was a classic case of what I'm talking about. You'd call Gracie's fight with Severn reality? It was a submission wrestling match, not the kind of encounter you'd see in a street environment.



How many times have we seen two MMA fighters brawl it out in the ring? When Wanderlei Silva got his ass beat by Vitor Belfort, he knew Belfort was the superior striker, but he attacked strength anyway. When Ken Shamrock fought Don Frye, he knew Don Frye was the bigger and stronger man, and he knew his own strength was NOT striking, but he attacked strength anyway. Same when Minowa decided to duke it out with Baroni. Minowa knew he was over-matched but wanted to show how tough he was. The list goes on and on and on.



First off, in a street fight there is no fight until the people are in striking distance. None of that bullshit that you see in the ring. Until people are within arms reach, there is no fight. And once you're in close quarters, you keep it there as best as you can and finish it. You don't push the guy away, put your hands up and start circling. You seriously watch too much television if that's your idea of reality.

And sorry to burst yet another of your bubbles, but both parties do not always get hurt in street fights. Well, if they're fighting like you they might. That says something about your own training if you think that before even going in you WILL definitely get hurt.