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Originally Posted by JkD187
Hey that's fine im glad you were able to have some intellegent discussion about it...however these all turn into flame wars eventually and i realize its because of some dumbass Trolls but regardless if you honestly wanted intellegent discussion you could have made a thread about this in the UC forum instead of flaming on someone eles thread.Your not a bad guy either its just that this whole thing is getting old really fast.If you honestly want to learn self defense and you train JUST BJJ your in Trouble....seeing as how the rule is DO NOT take it to the ground....but seeing as how they know JUST BJJ wtf are they supposted to do....and they know it and thats why there insecure about it.The key is Learn BJJ so you DONT go down and be well rounded enough to finish on your feet and that includes Weapons.Just my 2 cents.
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Well judging by what you just wrote your "2 cents" is a perspective that could save lives. You know, like I know that there are a lot of people that believe that there sportive training equips them for reality. By letting that myth ride, don't you feel a bit remiss by not challenging it when you encounter it? I mean, sure you KNOW the score when it comes to reality. Its obvious by what you wrote. But I thought coming to forums like this meant you were not only trying to learn, but help others who may have exaggerated or untrue ideas about their own training.
This is difficult to do, as you've seen me get attacked left and right by trolls like jubaji. But the idea was to bring to light my points, explain what facts support them and propose a drill so that people could see for themselves what I was speaking about. It wasn't meant to trash BJJ as I have stated many times that BJJ is a comprehensive group of methods to learn to control and escape newaza bouts. Many people who were BJJ practitioners agreed with what I was saying, but the trolls, who were mostly MMA and not pure BJJ players, kept pushing for arguments and clouding the debate at hand.
And being that this is the MMA and BJJ forum, I feel as though everything I've written is relevant here. But if you're honest with yourself JKD187, you can read nearly everything I've ever written and see that I was speaking from an analytical standpoint and not from an argumentative, arrogant one. I've only been rude in response to assholes like jubaji whose only function is to antagonize, provoke and berate others who have contributed their time and experience here. Trolls like them NEVER discuss martial arts, technique or concepts because they have no idea about them. Instead they just comment by using emoticons and tirades and occasionally detailed accounts of how they survived life threatening odds by using gymnastics and WWF styled wrestling techniques. I'm not kidding.