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Old 04-03-2007, 11:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
Sagacious Lu
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Originally Posted by Troll Virus View Post
Who said they were to teach you how to fight?
You need a bit of historical background here.
When I want to study history (and I do enjoy reading about history) I look for historians, not martial artists. When I signed up the school billed itself as "The Ultimate in Self-Defense". I took it for granted that the claim was hyperbolic but it was clear that on of the school's main goals was to prepare you to fight.


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To teach you 'how to fight?'
'Fighting' is all too easy to get experience of
Not at that school it wasn't; they did everything but there.



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I'm not going to respond to that, as I think/hope that you can do better.
Why is that? Is it because you're offended that I actually expect to be able to use a martial art in a fight, or is it because I'm supposed to pretend that the time I spent practicing those jumping spinning kicks was as helpful for self-defense as the time I spend sparring now? The reason you're not going to respond is because you won't admit that I'm right but you don't have a counter-argument either.

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Here, to make a comparison, you really need to have actual statistics, about the fights you had while training Hung Gar, and the fights you had while training boxing.

Bullshit I can evaluate my skills, my fundamental skills have grown by leaps and bounds. There are a number of people that I can now dominate in sparring that used to be able to embarass me at will. You can willfully disbelieve what I'm telling you but the fact is that I have seen far more tangible growth in my ability with my current training methods than I ever did at my previous school.



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Truth, is a very personal thing.
What's true for me, can be false for you.
The difference may be actual experience.
This is a fancy way of trying to get out of making a counter-argument.


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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought this thread was about how YOU decided to give up CMA???
Exactly, I gave up CMA because I was told it was "the ultimate in self-defense" but there was very little actual self-defense in the curriculum. I was fine with getting a little history mixed into the lesson but that was not what I went there for and the system did not perform as advertised. If I wanted history lessons I'd enroll in some college courses, I went there to learn self-defense like it promised in the school brochure.


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That'd be a great idea.
Try it.

Ego check yet again mister.
What you want/expect from a CMA forum may not be what everyone else wants/expects.
The rest of the world can make of it what they want, I for one will continue to speak my mind. The forum is here to discuss the CMAs, which is what I'm doing by providing legitimate criticism of one prominent CMA. Go ahead and report my post if you want, I'm pretty sure I haven't said anything that will upset the mods.

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Nobody appointed you, and you've done very little.
This line of shit again? Damn, and you think MY ego is out of control? Look, I'm just stating my point of view and I haven't attacked anyone personally. You on the other hand have consistantly tried to belittle me personally without providing any real response to the points that I've made. You are certainly in no position to pass judgement on me.
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