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Old 05-30-2007, 12:32 AM   #25 (permalink)
Mephariel
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ok,first of all running and skipping is not sport specific

Theres a difference you should understand between hitting a bag and shadowboxing, and performing pretty kung fu forms.Shadowboxing,sure it requires the fundamentals to be properly taught..but all the rest is left to your imagination.Forms are exact mimics of what you ''should'' do..if only forms limited themselves to simple executions (like in pad work) there wouldnt be much of a problem...the problem is the exact reproduction of a complex form that is more useless than pretty...plus the fact that it is non adaptable.

Now you tell me you'd rather execute forms because it trains your rythm,stamina and technique...what technique? a 4 year old can mimic a form...4 year old cant shadowbox freely

why spend valuable time learning the dance when you can be conditionning yourself and be evolving so much faster?Don't kid yourself..seriously..i was like you before
I don't understand your arguements at all. Forms requires the fundamentals to be properly taught too. Forms are not the exact mimic of what you should do, forms are the mimic of what a properly executed attack should look like. I think you are still confused. Forms are no different than if a boxing coach teach you how to properly punch. You can punch a hundred different ways, but there is still a proper way to execute a straight punch, or a hook. Think of a science experiment. You can do 1000 different experiment in a thousand different fields, but there is still only one way to use a pipette. There is still only one way to spread bacteria on a plate.

Your second arguement shows me that you are still confused. You said forms are non adaptable. That is true. But it is not supposed to be. Forms is to give you a set of tools that you must learn to execute properly. Why would you adapt your forms when you are not even fighting? Adapt to what? It is like using math formulas without a problem. Look, you can't adapt in a boxing ring if you don't know how to punch in the first place. How can you adapt in a boxing ring if you swing like a girl? You can say, I going to throw a jab and then a hook. Yeah...but you need to learn what a jab is first. If you don't have any foundation, how can you fight at all. Forms, bag punching, etc. gives you the foundation and physical capacity.

Lastly, a 4 year old can mimic form? LMAO. A 4 year old can't even do any stance without crying out in pain, let alone do a set. A four year old can do forms as much they can shadowbox. Not a chance. Sure, they can shadowbox...by punching like a girl and swinging wildly. Sure they can do forms, by having pissed poor machanics, zero power and speed.

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but where does a fighter need to fight besides in the ring? dont tell me in the ''street'' cuz if you feel threathened why dont you just carry a gun?

to me, personnaly, martial arts are a sport first..........
Martial arts are systems of self-defense first and foremost. I don't see where you get "sport" from. If martial arts are a sport first and foremost, then wouldn't pretty forms competition be more important than self-defense?
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