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darrianation · 09-30-2007, 05:35 PM

Ghost I understand where you coming from and certainly that is a valid point of view, but what people should realize this guy is a real person and there are many more “super” bad ass predators out there just like him…many more than you might think.

If you don’t want to train for this guy for your self, what about your family? To me even if I train my whole life and never have to use my training I would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. I would hate to loose and my wife or my kids pay the ultimate price for my lack of training…I would never be able to forgive myself.

I am not talking about martial arts as much as I am talking about self-defense. I have always contended most Dojo’s or schools aren’t self-defense programs they are either sport oriented or they are just beating their monkeys and they don’t even know why.

I would hope when folks take a look at their potential opponents they don’t see “a drunk looking for a punch up with his mates” but instead a real social-path criminal who is looking for more than “a punch up with his mates”. If you can deal with him then a drunk looking for a little mischief won’t be any problem.

The idea here is to reevaluate what you are training for. If you are not training to defend against the criminal assault than this thread is mute and you do not need to consider it but if your primary goal for training is self-defense I would hope you would consider the fact that the opponent you may face someday may not be the drunk third year computer programming student at the local university who just had one to many, he might be a real thug who may be experienced in violence who may have spent time in prison where he mastered his predatory skills.

There are many different reasons for training and they are all valid but I put this thread in the “combatives” forum for a reason. Folks who consider themselves students of combatives are those who train for the real deal criminal thug not the pathetic drunk.

Also, this should make you take a look at how you are training. If your likely thug opponents are going to be armed and work in teams which is often the case in the United States then that should dictate how you train meaning training to defend against multiples who are armed which means you should be training in firearms also, also known as “force multipliers”. Your training should provide you with the means to even the playing field and if there is a disparity of force the disparity should be in your favor. If your enemy is likely to carry machetes and knives then that should direct your training. The idea is to give your self all the advantages at your disposal so that you are the perfect storm opponent for the other guy to have to deal with.

It’s a commitment and a way of life not something you do on training day or part time…it’s a MINDSET!

Edited to add: This "mindset" isn't for everyone, it isn't for the sheeple, it is shared by the wolves and the sheepdogs.

09-30-2007, 05:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
darrianation Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,061	Ghost I understand where you coming from and certainly that is a valid point of view, but what people should realize this guy is a real person and there are many more “super” bad ass predators out there just like him…many more than you might think. If you don’t want to train for this guy for your self, what about your family? To me even if I train my whole life and never have to use my training I would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. I would hate to loose and my wife or my kids pay the ultimate price for my lack of training…I would never be able to forgive myself. I am not talking about martial arts as much as I am talking about self-defense. I have always contended most Dojo’s or schools aren’t self-defense programs they are either sport oriented or they are just beating their monkeys and they don’t even know why. I would hope when folks take a look at their potential opponents they don’t see “a drunk looking for a punch up with his mates” but instead a real social-path criminal who is looking for more than “a punch up with his mates”. If you can deal with him then a drunk looking for a little mischief won’t be any problem. The idea here is to reevaluate what you are training for. If you are not training to defend against the criminal assault than this thread is mute and you do not need to consider it but if your primary goal for training is self-defense I would hope you would consider the fact that the opponent you may face someday may not be the drunk third year computer programming student at the local university who just had one to many, he might be a real thug who may be experienced in violence who may have spent time in prison where he mastered his predatory skills. There are many different reasons for training and they are all valid but I put this thread in the “combatives” forum for a reason. Folks who consider themselves students of combatives are those who train for the real deal criminal thug not the pathetic drunk. Also, this should make you take a look at how you are training. If your likely thug opponents are going to be armed and work in teams which is often the case in the United States then that should dictate how you train meaning training to defend against multiples who are armed which means you should be training in firearms also, also known as “force multipliers”. Your training should provide you with the means to even the playing field and if there is a disparity of force the disparity should be in your favor. If your enemy is likely to carry machetes and knives then that should direct your training. The idea is to give your self all the advantages at your disposal so that you are the perfect storm opponent for the other guy to have to deal with. It’s a commitment and a way of life not something you do on training day or part time…it’s a MINDSET! Edited to add: This "mindset" isn't for everyone, it isn't for the sheeple, it is shared by the wolves and the sheepdogs. __________________ A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -G. Gordon Liddy A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. – George Bernard Shaw NOBAMA!