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Old 09-30-2007, 08:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
darrianation
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Call me crazy then because I enjoy this type of training and I enjoy spending time with like minded folks.

I think that is a cop out, an excuse to justify sub par training regimes and Mcdojos. We see examples of potential threats all the time on the TV news, in the news paper, such as what happened at Virginia tech, The Salt Lake city mall shooter, the Ted Bundy’s, the Jeffery Dahmer’s, etc, etc.

I once watched a documentary on Super Max prison in Colorado where they interviewed one inmate who was there because he had killed inmates in other prisons who was tattooed from head to toe, large, strong, and mean. He made a statement how he liked to kill and how super strong and super mad he was. From the look in his eyes I believe he meant every word he said and was capable of carrying out anything he set his mind to do.

Let’s take a realistic look at crime, real crime not the loud mouth drunk at the bar.

*All actual events.

1. 2002- Florida what began as a dispute over some allegedly stolen video games ended in six people being murdered by four teens wielding knives and baseball bats.

2. A karate instructor responding to his door bell at his home is fatally shot when he opens the door.

3. A man walks into his former employer’s office building with a gun and kills many of his former co-workers.

4. Muay Thai kick boxing champ shot and killed after confronting a hit and run driver in San Francisco CA.

5. In LA a security video camera catches the horror of an unidentified female being chased down the street caught and being forced into a trunk of a car.

6. 2005- Idaho, 42-year-old Joseph Edward Duncan III- accused of kidnapping a brother and sister After beating to death their mother, mother’s boyfriend, and another brother in the mother's Coeur D'Alene home… authorities believe that Shasta's 9-year-old brother, Dylan, was later murdered.

In 1980 Duncan was convicted in the state Washington for abducting and raping a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint. He reportedly tortured the boy by burning him with a cigarette and playing Russian roulette causing the boy to believe he would be killed.

Duncan wrote in his blog: "I am scared, alone, and confused, and my reaction is to strike out toward the perceived source of my misery, society. My intent is to harm society as much as I can, then die." [bold added]

He wrote of being in prison: "All those years I dreamed of getting out ... And getting even. Instead, I got out and I got even, but did not get caught. So, I got even again, and again did not get caught. So, I figured, well, I got even twice (actually more, but that's here nor there), even if I'm the only one who knows, so now what?"

7. 1993, a Pakistani named Kansi, parked his pickup truck near CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, during the morning rush hour, picked up an AK-47 (that he had acquired outside of legal channels...so much for gun laws) and began methodically shooting into cars at a stoplight. Two people were killed and three wounded before he got back into his truck and left the scene unhindered.

8. July 4, 2002 an Egyptian drove to the Los Angeles Airport, walked up to the El Al counter and began shooting people. He was eventually killed by Israeli security, but not before he shot several people.

9. September - October 2002 the Washington area was held in terror by two men who randomly shot Americans from concealed positions. The two men, later were shown, very briefly, to have strong ties to US militant Islamic groups.

10. A family pick nick ended in a fatal encounter: A recently released convicted felon walked up to a group of pick knickers and without a word being said and without warning began stabbing them killing two men and wounding another in front of their wives and children.

11. A man walking down a street is asked for the time and as he looks down at his watch he is then struck from behind with a blunt impact object rendered unconscious and robbed. The man suffered a fractured skull and a cranial bleed that left him partially paralyzed on one side.

12. Elizabeth smart taken from her home while here parents slept.

13. A man beaten to death by three teens who he walked in on during a home burglary.

14. Lisa Bonet Rasmy murdered in her own home while her parents slept.

15. Captured Al Qaeda training video: On the video the terrorists are shown planning and training to execute kidnappings, assassinations, and capturing entire sites. They approach from various points hiding their weapons and act in unison. They exhibit extreme violence upon contact and shoot anyone who offers resistance. Likewise, they seem to look for those who may offer any resistance and preemptively shoot them.

The scenes seen on the video show what appear to be public streets, business buildings, and golf courses. These are clearly intended to simulate settings in Western nations as such locales are rarely seen in the Middle East. Couple that with the fact that the terrorists role playing both "hostage" and "terrorist" on the video are using English phrases, and it becomes quite clear that these people are training for operations on American soil. The tactics discussed in the Al Qaeda Manual are in agreement with this.

Ted Bundy, Jeffery Dahmer, David Berkowitz (son of Sam), The BTK killer, Richard Ramirez, etcetera and etcetera….just to name a small few.

I think in all the crimonaology books I’ve read and interviews of prisoners I’ve seen I think Joseph Edward Duncan III’s rage against society is typical among violent criminals.

I seriously doubt training to deal with these kinds of criminals is a waste of time….unless you think it can’t be done (you believe these criminals can’t be defeated) in that case you have already lost.
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