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sly fox · 11-05-2007, 12:54 PM

People will always make claims to big themselves up to get more 'bums on seats'... i trained in an organisation for a few years and saw that they were advertising about having taken the art into the world to test in realistic situations such as close protection... what this consisted of was an instructor there does indeed work as a bodyguard but I also know that he works on a low key job and has never had to hit anyone...

one thing you read a lot, particularly in the states is 'has trained law enforcement or military'..

In the uk bouncing is different to the states, in the states a lot of the jobs done by security personel seem to be done by police officers...

Theres also a difference in the UK between old school bouncers and newer ones, and also where they worked... I worked in a bar for a year some 15 years ago on the door, certainly I had a good few incidents of people being mouthy, but it was a reasonably quiet bar and I never hit anyone, I never had to.... these days you cant just lay people out left and right and not lose your license, in the old days there were no licenses

The area and place you work in greatly affects how many fights you get in.. as was said earlier some doormen get in tons of scraps each night they work.... these days door work tends to be better planned and people clamp down faster and it doesnt tend to be so much down to a couple of guys to sort out all the problems... a well run club has people in sectors who stop trouble before it starts so you dont have to get into massive brawls and a decent response team who multi-team a person who needs removing

Another danger of the 1000s of fights individuals, and there really are people like that is that they are physically gifted individuals (i know a few), and the techniques they use arent often transferable to be as high percentage to your average individual.... someone may have knocked out 100 drunk wobbly characters with their patented left hook, but that doesnt mean that left hook when used by a 'normal' individual will be as high percentage... in fact for someone who doesnt have the timing, strength and aptitude some of the techniques taught are far from high percentage...

11-05-2007, 12:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
sly fox Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 28	People will always make claims to big themselves up to get more 'bums on seats'... i trained in an organisation for a few years and saw that they were advertising about having taken the art into the world to test in realistic situations such as close protection... what this consisted of was an instructor there does indeed work as a bodyguard but I also know that he works on a low key job and has never had to hit anyone... one thing you read a lot, particularly in the states is 'has trained law enforcement or military'.. In the uk bouncing is different to the states, in the states a lot of the jobs done by security personel seem to be done by police officers... Theres also a difference in the UK between old school bouncers and newer ones, and also where they worked... I worked in a bar for a year some 15 years ago on the door, certainly I had a good few incidents of people being mouthy, but it was a reasonably quiet bar and I never hit anyone, I never had to.... these days you cant just lay people out left and right and not lose your license, in the old days there were no licenses The area and place you work in greatly affects how many fights you get in.. as was said earlier some doormen get in tons of scraps each night they work.... these days door work tends to be better planned and people clamp down faster and it doesnt tend to be so much down to a couple of guys to sort out all the problems... a well run club has people in sectors who stop trouble before it starts so you dont have to get into massive brawls and a decent response team who multi-team a person who needs removing Another danger of the 1000s of fights individuals, and there really are people like that is that they are physically gifted individuals (i know a few), and the techniques they use arent often transferable to be as high percentage to your average individual.... someone may have knocked out 100 drunk wobbly characters with their patented left hook, but that doesnt mean that left hook when used by a 'normal' individual will be as high percentage... in fact for someone who doesnt have the timing, strength and aptitude some of the techniques taught are far from high percentage...