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Old 11-05-2007, 03:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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nah i didnt mean the fence, etc... i was talking more about when you go on a seminar with these guys and they advoctae specific strikes which are their favourites and then you think sh*t I could never knock someone out with the power I generate from that...

the fence and stuff is good... a well known rbsd guy did tell me though that he hadnt had much luck with the chest height fence, that it worked well with drunk guys in bars but that other people tend to push in when you touch them on the chest and its better to have your hands at head height and look through the fingers as people wont push their faces against your hands, and the chest one tended to escalate things

some rbsd guys in the uk were advocating the use of a steel pen for example.... i asked an rbsd guy I was training with what he thought about that (i trust this guys opinion), and he said well he used one one, made a bloody mess of the guy, lost the pen and knocked the guy out with a cross, then got me to try to hold one striking the pads, i hit lighter so as not to lose the pen which shot out the back of my hand and indeed reckoned that i prefered to hit with a fist..

there are some guys out there I reckon who have had a ton of fights, like john skillen for example...he was a street fighter, was beating up doormen so was offered a job, then worked a rough club... his brother peter says john had at least four fights a night (peter was the dj in that club) and john worked that door for well over a decade nearly every night of the week... now john is a naturally super tough guy... hes naturally skilled and strong and has a high work ethic... he was a boxer, a national judo team member when he took up judo

I also know a guy who claims tons of real world experience and taught a well known regiment, and a guy from that regiment didnt have a clue who the guy was and had never heard of him...

so i reckon there are guys who have had that many fights but the guys they fight are mainly drnken average joes wobbling around, and dont forget often theres more than one door man dealing with the incident and the definition of a fight is the guy swinging a wild missing punch, getting restrained and dragged outside... not a stand up fight with a very strong tough skilled opponent.... but sometimes they fight someone who is tough and they tend to tell those tales...

so i guess what im saying is i do think there are guys that have had that many fights.... anyone can lose a fight to anyone especially if someone is going to any lengths... a knife in the back when you're not looking being a good example...

I like you am sceptical of many of the claims

i reckon how most people win these fights is pre-emptive striking and getting in first... i know there are super tough monsters out there, I used to work in prison and there were guys in there that scared the s&*t out of me... some guys win by resorting to using tools

i reckon most of the guys that have had 100s of fights have lost some somewhere along the line, or run away to fight another day..
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