Originally Posted by Knuckles&Knees

I was in the U.S. Marine Corps when it was still teaching the LINE system (Linear Infighting Neural Engagement). It is a total fallacy that military and law enforcement hand-to-hand combative systems of training are superior to that of combat athletes.

The fact that the USMC and other branches have revamped their hand-to-hand systems and become more grappling focused, and inspired by Brazilian Jujitsu gives evidence to this. (though it does not prove it)

Military people will rarely see hand-to-hand combat - in actual military warfare that is. I'm very pleased in what I have seen in the new Marine Corps Martial Art, it is a huge step above the old LINE system, but as good as the new MCMAP may be, few Marines will ever use it in actual military combat. This is the nature of modern warfare, it is also the nature in modern warfare to brain wash people to run into the direction of rounds being fired at them, and it *has always been* the nature of warfare to utilize propaganda.

Thai boxers and MMA fighters are actually akin to gladiators. Modern military personnel are more akin to the Roman Legions.

You don't have to be Bruce Lee to work for the FBI and just because you're a sailor swabbing a deck don't make you Chuck Norris.

The main thing hand-to-hand combat training gives military folks is *confidence.* In modern warfare you are likely to be killed or injured at a distance. Even a "near ambush" if I remember correctly, is something like 50 yards. (a far cry from two inches from your face)