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**Thai Bri** · 11-20-2007, 11:50 AM

Mike and Michael are both being defensive.

When I say that good stuff can stand criticism, that is a cue to talk about the material..... not about Paul Vunak, and not about me. Yes, he is a great martial artist - so what? No, I do not have a martial arts course out there. So what?

Tell me how that material can help people in a self protection situation, and how it is better than other stuff out there, if you can. Don't tell me how Paul is a great guy and I am too quick to generalise.

All this "but he has stood the test of time" is also irrelevant. There are plenty of appalling martial artists who are still out there.

The fact that they barely discussed the material at all is very relevant. It is defensive and shows an inability to back up the arguments about the material itself.

Now leave your egos at the door and tell me how this "bite if your life is in danger" tripe is going to do anything other than get me killed.

11-20-2007, 11:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,423 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mike and Michael are both being defensive. When I say that good stuff can stand criticism, that is a cue to talk about the material..... not about Paul Vunak, and not about me. Yes, he is a great martial artist - so what? No, I do not have a martial arts course out there. So what? Tell me how that material can help people in a self protection situation, and how it is better than other stuff out there, if you can. Don't tell me how Paul is a great guy and I am too quick to generalise. All this "but he has stood the test of time" is also irrelevant. There are plenty of appalling martial artists who are still out there. The fact that they barely discussed the material at all is very relevant. It is defensive and shows an inability to back up the arguments about the material itself. Now leave your egos at the door and tell me how this "bite if your life is in danger" tripe is going to do anything other than get me killed. Last edited by Thai Bri; 11-20-2007 at 11:52 AM.