Mike and Mike, both points well taken.
I guess it is both idealistic and naive to think anything other then,
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"The fact is that no matter what a great idea it may be to have constructive dialogue and civil discourse, it'll never, ever happen because for every educated, intelligent, civilized person having a civilized discussion out there, there are five idiots with neither the depth of knowledge nor the foundation of character to take part in anything constructive, let alone discussions."
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But if those of us that are frustrated just stand by and have the, "That's the way it is and always will be so, chuck it." response, it will never change.
And maybe thats the point . . . It is just never going to change so I should just stop adding to the debate. Sad as it is.
With that, I may just fade back the obsurity of just reading and not posting.