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Originally Posted by fire cobra
Thanks Ghost,
To be honest ive never really looked into the Ross methods(i will now) and ive never give any thought to how the Thai boys would function with more muscle.
I have however gave thought to the way they de-hydrate so much,and often think if they cut down on there 2x daily training would it make a big difference?,i think the answers i have come up with is that because they retire young(in the main) they can get away with the de-hydration thing without long term damage,on the training regime perhaps its because what else would they do? training keeps them in the gym,as you well know most camps are like big families,the young up and coming boxers dont drink,smoke(most of em!) or fornicate,wheras if they had more free time perhaps they may be more prone to these and other things,im not saying these thoughts are correct,just my humble opinions at the moment.
The big thing i like about Martial arts training is the technical aspects,ive never been into MA for the fitness,im not lazy its just the tecnical movements and strategys fascinate me.
As ive gotten older i have had a lot more injurys than i ever had,and it seems the harder i train the more it happens,very frustrating!,im now at the point where im thinking 10 years ahead to when im 60(bloody hell!) we have only got one body to go with us into older age so i dont want anything i do now to affect me adversily in the future,so i am looking to nutrition and perhaps to weight training for protection and prevention of injurys,i realise that may bring its own problems so im just at the research stage,any thoughts?.
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I think the dehydration thing is just a bad idea personally, if they just all agreed to weigh in at a higher weight it would all be solved and they wouldnt have to do it. I personally wont do it, which is seen as odd but i know i wont rehydrate in time and i know it will affect my performance.
Clone yourself, one of you has to dehydrate, the other doesnt, obvious who has the advantage, thats my take on it.
On to training twice a day, your points are good and i think you are right that would happen, what i mean more is that you could have 2 training sessions a day but not both thai boxing.
It has been my thought for some time now that if the morning was a run followed by some really good quality strength training, you could for instance be more body part specific on each day, or at least have a slight focus to avoid over training. I think theyd be even more powerful for it.
I feel its suffering slightly from a "this is how we do it" mentality, though im not sure my idea is better but it is near to what i do at the moment, i do functional training in the morning and do the bare minimum to get by that i can in terms of padwork etc in the morning which is usually a few rounds on the pads and a few on the bag. Id rather do no pad or bag work in the morning as i think it would be more productive.
The result for me has been more intense training in the afternoon and strength gains. Results from one person are inconclusive though.
As for yourself, well personally as soon as i stop fighting im going to move far more strongly into bodybuilding but maintain as much thai boxing as i can at the same time. IMO addint muscle gives protection and if im not training like a fighter any more id like to build more muscle.
Nutritionally i pay alot of attention, i think is THE BIG thing that martial artists screw up on. Nutrition makes a huge difference to your bodies recovery and performance abilites.
I pay strict attention to the type of carbohydrates i eat, my room is stocked with oats, all bran and weetabix, i pay attention to the protein i eat, i regularly buy extra chicken and beef when i can find it. Fat wise i have omega 3 caps of the highest qualit, i eat alot of nuts. Micro nutrient wise i eat alot of fruit and veg. Im careful to time carbs around training and get adequate protein and carbs after training to recover, no waiting around for an hour for the camp food to be ready.
Overall i eat more than the thais do, partly cos im larger and partly to get the nutrition. I have my own wake up meal of oats and whey, i eat fruit in the daytime after the camp meal, i have a pre training carb meal 1.5 hours before afternoon training, dextrose powder in water during training,i have oats and whey with dextrose after training and then the camp meal and i have whey and fat and a small amount of carbs pre bed to keep my body in repair mode.
I think its the real missing link in martial arts and has made an absolutely huge difference to my training since i started paying attetion to nutrition.
I dont really think 50 is that old at all but obviously it takes longer to recover, id personally move more towards weight training in order to prevent injury and feel good. Id also keep the cardio up but lower the stuff thats going to cause injury. Cant say much more than that though as i dont have experience of being that age yet.
Out of interest can you keep up with the younger lads in the gym?
i also wanted to add in that the strategy and technical side also interests me infinitely more than simply the fitness side.