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npk9 · 01-07-2008, 01:05 PM

If I may ask what Shaolin style do you do? Also what kind of school? Is there a school website? There's nothing wrong with going Traditional but you really have to ask yourself. What do you want?

I've done started out in traditional Shaolin back in 1992. Starting with Southern, then I started doing alittle bit of Northern a couple years after that. I did a lot of forms competition at the national level (USWKF, USCKF). I then did San Shou/San Da at the end of my form competition career (if you could call it that). I have been fighting competitively for 3 years (as much as I can) my rec is 4-1 @ 155lbs this is fighting with the (USKBA San Da rules).

The reason why I'm asking and the reason why I'm giving you my background is that I've been there and done it with CMA. Which is why I ask - what do you want out of it?

I don't think "110lbs Freshman Wrestler up against any 150lbs shaolin guy" is really good statement to make but I understand where he's coming from. A lot of CMA people aren't good combat sports fighters - pointsparers at best. If any school states that their system is an awesome "self-defense" style and doesn't really do "MMA" or "full contact" fighting - I would avoid. Self-defense and combat sports are different but the training methodolgies do overlap.

To put in my opinion - I really do not like Wing Chun - as a style. I do not like there stances. There system answers low kicks with a stomp kick (WTF!?). I have no idea if they even have takedowns or takedown defences. I don't think there 3 forms address that either. But not to totally bash there system - I like how they are always address to protect the center line, there trapping is neat but that's all it is - neat.

But from an overview from a school to school stand point - most WC school are very cultish and ethnocentric in there class. A lot of Shaolin schools and TCMA fall into that category as well but there are few good ones that try to overcome that "Grandmaster" status.

01-07-2008, 01:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
npk9 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PA Posts: 146	If I may ask what Shaolin style do you do? Also what kind of school? Is there a school website? There's nothing wrong with going Traditional but you really have to ask yourself. What do you want? I've done started out in traditional Shaolin back in 1992. Starting with Southern, then I started doing alittle bit of Northern a couple years after that. I did a lot of forms competition at the national level (USWKF, USCKF). I then did San Shou/San Da at the end of my form competition career (if you could call it that). I have been fighting competitively for 3 years (as much as I can) my rec is 4-1 @ 155lbs this is fighting with the (USKBA San Da rules). The reason why I'm asking and the reason why I'm giving you my background is that I've been there and done it with CMA. Which is why I ask - what do you want out of it? I don't think "110lbs Freshman Wrestler up against any 150lbs shaolin guy" is really good statement to make but I understand where he's coming from. A lot of CMA people aren't good combat sports fighters - pointsparers at best. If any school states that their system is an awesome "self-defense" style and doesn't really do "MMA" or "full contact" fighting - I would avoid. Self-defense and combat sports are different but the training methodolgies do overlap. To put in my opinion - I really do not like Wing Chun - as a style. I do not like there stances. There system answers low kicks with a stomp kick (WTF!?). I have no idea if they even have takedowns or takedown defences. I don't think there 3 forms address that either. But not to totally bash there system - I like how they are always address to protect the center line, there trapping is neat but that's all it is - neat. But from an overview from a school to school stand point - most WC school are very cultish and ethnocentric in there class. A lot of Shaolin schools and TCMA fall into that category as well but there are few good ones that try to overcome that "Grandmaster" status. __________________ I like to full-contact fight - do you?? If want a challenge - PM - we'll set something up! Seriously