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Old 01-30-2008, 04:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Michael Wright View Post
10,000 calories a day?!? Jesus mate, you certainly do get your oats!!

Thats all great advice, no arguments with any of it as I have seen it work for other people so I know you are right. I worked with a nutritionist who looked at my diet and said the problem was simple, I just needed about 4,000 more calories a day, which I did. But here is the problem......

What happens, when all you do is shit it out? Food flies through me at 100 miles an hour, I can't be absorbing the benefits, and I used to lose so much water and salt through the runs - so it had the opposite effect. Could that be a wider metabolic problem, a thyroid problem, or maybe a wider digestive issue? (no biscuit jokes please)

I wouldnt have thought it to be a problem, depends entirely what you were eating, to up calories you could massively increase fat intake. If you really struggle, this may sound odd, you can eat ice cream, low GI but very high calorie. you are likely to absorb most of what you eat though water intake may suffer if its giving you the runs.
Food nutrients are absorbed in the upper intestine, before it solidifies in the lower intestine where water is absorbed. THough you may lose some benefits.

I would expect that at your height that 4000 calories isnt enough, im 6 foot but 90kg ( i do alot of weights) and i need alot of calories in order to do the cardio + martial arts training + conditioning/weights training and gain still.
4000 is low, thats what a bodybuilder would eat on a bulk who did something like 3 X 30 minute cardio sessions a week, not a martial artist.

Id shoot for 6000 for now for someone your height and doing martial arts, to start with. Not growing is always a case of not eating enough if the training is right.
You have to think, someone your size is easily using 2500 cals a day if you just sat on your ass and did nothing whatsoever. So you have 1500 or to fuel your movement during the day add in some martial arts and any weights and any other training and you can see you can smash through the 4000 cal barrier in no time.

Im rambling a little but the runs can be caused by the diet change especially if you added things like whey protein?

Diet is something im fairly big on in relation to my training and in my experience alot, not all, nutritionists are lost when it comes to martial arts because it is fairly unique in its requirements in terms of nutrition.
This is often due to them not being a seasoned martial artist or if they are having never attempted to bulk up. Most often they hear " i want to bulk" or " i want to cut/lose weight" and they go from there with a small allowance for what you actually do.

I wouldnt be suprised if you were given a bodybuilding diet.
What i did was read up on bodybuilding diets, then read up on cardio.endurance diets and put them both together, hey presto it works, i grew like a weed.

Its natural after what you have experienced to feel you are a hard gainer or have some sort of metabolic issue but the likelyhood is that you were simply given bad advice with poor food choices/meal timings etc.
If you want a i can put up a sample day if you like for what i would have for 6k calories
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