The second vid is Alan Orr, and its a shooto rules style fight with no punches to the head. Alan does have a reputation in the UK for being a good Wing Chun man, but he also trains MMA and is the UK rep for the Shark Tank Gym. Just because Alan studies Wing Chun, this isn't a "Wing Chun" fight of any nature, they guy has just put his time in on the mat. I see some big right hands, some left hooks, a thigh kick, some knees and then some submission grappling. Last time I checked, that was called MMA.
I don't mean to be rude but the first fight looks like a couple of guys who have had one too many beers. I respect anyone who gets in the ring and mixes it up, but again this certainly isn't testament to any Wing Chun skill.
We're back to the same old argument that has gone round time and time again. When someone with a background in a specific art, trains in and steps into a different arena, they become a fighter of that arena. They aren't proving their original art - they are proving themselves. So the respect goes to Alan, and the Stella boys, nothing to do with Wing Chun from where I am sitting.
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