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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer
I'm personally more than a little skeptical when I hear people talk about "devastating" or "destroying" other people. Maybe it's just the way some folks talk, but it has a decidedly theatrical ring to it that seems to displace any truth a statement might have. In my own limited experience, I find that anyone willing to talk that way about themselves generally has ego issues, and you can't trust their impressions anyway.
Much like the old, "Walk into my school and throw down a gaulntlet!" statement. Seriously? Is that how Kamon works? The school and its instructors are so tightly wound, they'd drop what they were doing and dogpile a guy if he came in and annouced (this is a theatrical image, too), "Arm breaks are hard to do in a real fight!"
Personally, I don't want to learn my self defense from people with that short a fuze or that little common sense.
Come down to my school.  What a load.
And um, the forum has no problem with you telling anyone who you train with. The real question is, why does it matter? I know who I trained with, and I also know there were tons of people at every one of those places that were better than me. I can also tell you there some that couldn't fight at all. But we all trained under the same people, didn't we? Asking someone to judge you based on who your instructor is or what color your belt is ranks among the dumbest statements on Earth. The only thing anyone can judge you on is you. It's telling to me that you'd rather they didn't. Every time one of these questions comes up, Red Rum, you seem to throw out Kamon and Kevin Chan's name to validate what you're saying. What's wrong with Red Rum's name? Is your opinion less valid than Kevin Chan's? |
Let's put it this way. Kevin Chan could own me in a second. He is a better martial artist than any I've known and his wing chun is second to none
he is a master of BJJ. A master of wing chun. An extremely proficient boxer and kickboxer. So yeah, I use his name to give extra emphasis to the doubters. because if I said that wing chun works, people don't believe me. But if a black belt BJJ says it, people tend to take note.
I use Kamon's name so that people know what I am talking about. I train in five different martial arts and if I said that 'I' did this or 'I' did that, people wouldn't know if I ws referring to kickboxing, BJJ, Kamon etc
And no, the offer was not a throw down. The guy was doubting that an arm break would ever be possible in a fight. As he did not take my word for it, the only other way is in person
For the record, I do not challenge people on websites. I will always offer clarity to people who have a different view. It is very dangerous to dismiss the breaking of limbs because you have never seen it. In BJJ classes, people get broken limbs just from doing light training sometimes!
What is wrong with the words 'devastate' or 'destroy'
If I beat a guy in a fight, it might be on a technicality or on a lucky knockout, so that dosn't really describe the fight. When I say that wing chun destroyed an opponent, I literally mean that the techniques overwhelmed, overpowered and tore the guy opponent. It is no biggy
And by the way, the tournaments I mentioned previously were 'low level' and by this I mean it is not exactly UFC standard. There are far better guys out there who have trained longer or who just train harder
Michael Wright -
“For the record, I also used to fight bare knuckle several years ago”
Hence the phrase several years ago
I work for the police now and most of my fights are legal
“If you find anyone willing to get into a no holds barred fight with me, I would be glad to video it and show wing chun vs a resisting opponent”
This was an answer to those idiots who claim that wing chun doesnt work against a resisting opponent
“Ive seen wing chun used in aggressive fights and wing chun destroyed the aggressors”
This isn't exactly a big statement. And if you are saying that it doesn't work, please feel free to pop along to any Kamon class and watch the instructor give a demo
Nothing is mystical or secret. I can't go round posting details of fights or names on a public forum, partly because it is bad ettiquette to list people without their permission and secondly because I can't be bothered to quote them everytime I post.
If you want my name, PM me and I will give details