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Old 03-04-2008, 04:12 AM   #32 (permalink)
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My background is in Southern Shaolin Tiger-Claw and Northern Mantis. I don't know what dark path you're speaking of but I call it critical thinking. If you critically read my post (which you might not have - I don't blame you I probably wouldn't have either - it was a RANT) you would have noticed that I was lumping everything into one - especially with WC - I can definitely expand this to just TCMA as well as they have the same issues but the practioners aren't so zealot like in there belief in the style. The reason why I lump WC or any other style of that matter is because people who aren't within the system will lump everything together. Collective of BS overtime isn't going to CMA prosper. .
Yeah my point was that even as a sarcastic rant, putting one style into one box is misguided. It would be like me grouping Shaolin styles together.
A local school 'Nam Yang' did a demo recently which was dreadful. Yet I wouldn't suggest for one minute that this is representative of all shaolin styles.

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Let me ask you this. If WC claims to be a combative system why doesn't the system as a whole change with the times? Why is it only a few of the "Masters" that are willing to add or changes things...
Again you are grouping it as one thing. There are so many variations of wing chun that putting them in one box is ludicrous. There is no overall governing body, and some instructors like the traditional way of wing chun, whereas others want to improve its fighting ability. Also a lot of Masters do not do other martial arts, so it is hard for them to adapt the system

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Ps. Please eloborate how sticky hands - I can see how it increases sensitivity but what are these advantages that you speak of and who are these basic opponents..
Sensitivity is incredibly important in a fight. If you have ever been in a fight (and I'm not judging you if you haven't), most of the time it is hard to rely on your eyes. In things like boxers clinches, or grabs, you can feel when you're opponent is going to release his hand before he does the action
If a person strikes and makes contact with your arm, you will find ways round the arm, instead of relying on your eyes to try and look for gaps. If you hit someone and they go back, your sensitivity will help follow them (rather than let them break off and come back and attack). Sensitivity is a tool. It is not a secret art that will give you super powers or something but it will help you greatly. I do well in BJJ because of this stick. Without it, I would have to rely a lot on reaction

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To address your question on "Stomp kick isn't going to stop a round house. WHO SAID IT DOES?" Nobody - thats my point. I don't think the system adequetly address that issue.
"Also someone who is big or getting on in life doesn't want to be performing roundhouse kicks when it is easier just to kick down!" Someone who is big or getting on in life. . . what does that mean? Please clarify - are you saying a bigger fighter would much rather do stomp kicks then round house kicks as opposed to a smaller fighter? I believe that those of us who do fight in the ring let alone on the street seldom get that luxury of choice.
If you are talking solely about ring fighting then I will withdraw that.
I have seen people in their 50s pull off a roundhouse kick, but it has not been of great quality. I'm not saying that older/bigger people cannot do it, but that a newbie to martial arts who is past the age of 30 would most rather do a stamp kick than a roundhouse. In a street confrontation, you don't have a nice ring and lots of space. Things like roundhouse kicks are more difficult to pull off. I've been drunk before and still pulled off a stamp kick.

Doesn't mean that roundhouse kicks are rubbish only that they have their time and place
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