Originally Posted by SamuraiGuy

First of all, you cant use dog bros as an example because after all their training simulates a sport. They may discuss how its not a sport, etc, no rules, but there are rules, they always have someone watching over the gatherings (guro crafty usually) and the "everyone has the same IQ at teh end of the day" makes it sportive. If you have that in the back of your mind its not quite self defense.

It also goes along with alot of the points the guy made, no time limits? Well in dog bros they stop before someone dies or gets KO'd, usually after ... I think 2 minutes maybe? They can also tap out, not to mention them meeting each other at a set date, at a set time, and picking who they want to fight. They also have one on one fights, no one ever jumps in,

what a bullshit sport, its obviously worthless for your self defense training. (heavily laden with sarcasm obviously).

So while I wouldnt say you can use dog bros as a sport, I'll refute your other point.

Matt Hughes or B.J. Penn would most likely kick the shit out of anyone at a gathering of the pack. Whether they were given sticks or not, even if it was them unarmed versus someone with a stick. Dog Bros may train BJJ with the machados etc.... but it wouldnt be enough.

Matt Hughes for example, just throw up a roof block, or even lead with an attacking block, take one shot with the stick to their arms. And now Matt Hughes has a hold of you, you'd be on the ground in two seconds and you no longer have the range to make your stick effective, from there you'd likely get mauled.