Ok, catching up here...
who ever asked me about bagua use of the back - I can't answer because (as I said) I got no instruction on that. None. Nada.
As for Chen bagua: since no one has heard of Chen bagua and since the references I gave the url to all point to a Chen Tai Chi site, I can't believe all the fuss...
I practise Chen Style Tajiquan, the Practical Method of Hong Jungshen through Chen Zhonghua.
I dropped my studies of bagua and Lo He Ba Fa once I realised I was getting proper internal instruction from Chen taiji.
We do not use the word "relaxed" but use "released" instead. Muscles are only used to create structure and never for power, especially in the shoulders and arms.
I am just a beginner and can't speak for the style.
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