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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer
I also think it's important to remember that he lost both his fights with Vanderlei. In other words, the tactic you've chosen to illustrate in that clip was a losing strategy in a fight against a guy who used his hands to hit with instead of block with.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. He lost due to knees in the clinch. I remember you catching someone else posting things out of context, and I'm really not clear at all how him losing from getting kneed in the face relates to CM not being particularly effective for dealing with punches in the boxing range. That's like saying suplays aren't any good because Kevin Randleman got kimurad after slamming Fedor.
Also, from the video clips I've seen of Rodney King, CM is just a component, one of many options. He presents it as an option for those who aren't particularly good at boxing (or not good at all). I'm just starting to get some power in my punches that would let me do some damage, but I'm just touching that. Before I could throw but it wasn't any good because it wouldn't make them cover up if they didn't want to. I used CM style covering up to not get knocked down/out by punches before I could close the distance and clinch. There's definitely more than one counter to punches, and not being able to counter punch doesn't mean it's not an effective defense. Having your arms protecting your face like that when you shoot in for a takedown is good to protect against knees, and with level changing you can shoot your arm out to get good penetration (along with the step) while going for a single leg. It might not be the best thing for a good boxer, but it's damn good for a wrestler or BJJer who doesn't have power in his hands.