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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer
I have said elsewhere, in different contexts that there's no inherently "wrong" techniques. Anything can work, and if it does, it's a good idea. With Vanderlei and Rampage - it didn't work.
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It did work. Watch the original clip. CM is for defending against
punches. Wanderlei threw punches, and Quinton blocked them. What bizarre criterion of "worked" are you using?
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It's not really relevant, though. You're a follower of the Crazy Monkey stuff, so I expect you to back it up even when you're completely wrong.
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No, I'm not a follower of CM. I watched a video once and started applying it, and it has worked quite well for me. That's not being a follower of it. That's incorporating a small aspect of it into my game.
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If you'd like to expand the diuscussion to a different context and just talk about why a good counter-offense is BETTER than pure defense I'll gladly own you there as well. As for this discussion, you're still wrong. I'm still right. Get over it.
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I already did. See the Yuki Kondo vs Wanderlei Silva fight. He used a counter offense, he got knocked down with punches as a result of it. Quinton's pure defense worked better against Silva than Yuki's counter offense.
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To punctuate my point, you cited Ali vs Foreman. That fight took 8 gruelling rounds and it helped tear Ali down into the man he is today. By comparison, watch this fight in which Ali counter punches.
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Ali was offensive all throughout the first round and wasn't able to put Foreman down. He had to switch to defense because offense wasn't working.