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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer
I've bolded a few pieces of this so you can see that I have absolutely no problem with the tactic when it works. I just don't see the point. It seems like the lazy man's excuse not to learn footwork, head movement, etc. It doesn't appear to me to have any advantages whatsoever over conventional boxing methods.
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Sure it does. You can teach it to a wrestler so that within the span of a couple days he can protect his head enough to get the takedown safely. You can teach it to anyone who is interested in surviving a fight to handle the first few punches, break and run like hell. That's very much an advantage, you're looking at 3-6 months to get some solid boxing down following conventional methods, vs less than a week to get something workable with Crazy Monkey. How is that not an advantage?
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I don't see it being anything special, and I don't see it as an improvement on what existed before it. When you show me clips of the Crazy Monkey, I see guys who cover up and don't move their feet anywhere but straight back. I see them letting opponents get close to them. I see them sitting still and not moving off on angles. Even in your own examples, you'll see that this is true. When a fighter puts his stock in covering up, he often forgets that you need to be moving and controlling range in order to be effective. That's exactly what got Rampage caught by Vanderlei - he covered up and moved straight back, allowing Vanderlei to close with impunity and knee - and it's why your average guy on the street will get his ass kicked trying it.
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Rampage covered up, backed up and was out of range from being attacked, there was a pause in the action. For the average guy in the street that's enough time to run like hell. Block the punches that are coming, get out of range, run. That's not going to get your ass kicked.
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I point all this out because again, you've been working hard to skew this and make it seem like I'm totally discrediting Crazy Monkey as a technique. You're working overtime to try and show me people who've used covering up before as a defense (surprise surprise!) and in so doing, you've apparently failed to read even what I've written about it here in this very thread.
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You contradicted yourself there. First you said it'll get the average guy on the street his ass kicked, then you quote yourself saying it's OK for the average guy on the street. Are you even sure what your stance on CM is?
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Now to close out, since Crazy Monkey is something that obviously had to have its own name because it was different from what's being taught, why don't you go back and find some professionals who use Rodney King's method rather than the standard, conventional boxing tools that I already mentioned were out there? Everything you've shown here actually supports my point, because I said:
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Quinton isn't a professional??? o_O
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So thank you for reinforcing the point that no one actually needs anything except what boxing already teaches in this aspect of the game.
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Except, you know, Yuki Kondo....