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Mike Brewer · 04-27-2008, 07:20 PM

A troll is someone who goes "trolling" for responses on a forum. It's a term taken from fishing. Trolling is when a fisherman casts out some bait and then drags it through the water behind a boat hoping for a bite. In internet terms, it's used to decribe someone who just posts nonsense or controversy so he can get people to "bite" and start arguments.

Much like people who get overly defensive and throw pity-party fits when confronted with facts about their posts.

Look, there's no need to get hyperactive and there's no reasons for your feelings to get hurt. I'll try and explain this in a gentler way, and in return I ask that you try not to take offense so easily, okay?

You said that you want to explore different things, right? Well, so far here, you've asked about three different arts, and you've been given advice on such aspects of fighting as boxing, wrestling, BJJ, MMA, and stickfighting. I remember a conversation with you in which someone suggested you go try wrestling. You blew them off and said that it would interfere with your boxing training at home. When people suggested ways around that, you got upset and said you were going to do it your way. That is not exploration. Exploring something means you go and give it a try. In martial arts, it often means making a commitment of several months before making up your mind. But that's not what you've done. You've instead decided to dismiss the advice given to you and get upset when people call you on it. The result is that people tend to feel as though they are wasting their time in giving you advice, and they stop taking you seriously.

Let me ask a few questions to get things moving in a more positive direction:

You said you couldn't train anywhere except your garage until summer. Why?
Do you have any training partners, or is this something you have to do all by yourself?
Can you afford to actually sign up for lessons someplace, or are paid classes out of the question?
How serious are you about wanting to train in something?
What kind of equipment do you have that you can work on?
Who do you know that's better than you? Can that person act as your coach if people here give you some input?
Do you have any idea what types of arts or which particular instructors you like? Could you pick out the differences between say, Dan Inosanto and Paul Vunak? What about between, say, Royce Gracie and Jean-Jacques Machado?
Finally, do you have a bike or some other form of transportation that you can use to get to lessons if they're close to home?

Do me a favor and answer those questions. I'll take a look at your answers and see if I can offer some good guidance on how to get going on a program that's going to work for you. I understand that you're young, and that's no big deal. But you have to understand that no one here wants to waste their time and effort on someone who's going to ignore their advice. So in exchange for the help I'm offering, you need to get a little less sensitive when people like Michael rightly tell you your previous posts have cast a negative light your direction. Fair?

04-27-2008, 07:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mike Brewer Moderate Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,080	A troll is someone who goes "trolling" for responses on a forum. It's a term taken from fishing. Trolling is when a fisherman casts out some bait and then drags it through the water behind a boat hoping for a bite. In internet terms, it's used to decribe someone who just posts nonsense or controversy so he can get people to "bite" and start arguments. Much like people who get overly defensive and throw pity-party fits when confronted with facts about their posts. Look, there's no need to get hyperactive and there's no reasons for your feelings to get hurt. I'll try and explain this in a gentler way, and in return I ask that you try not to take offense so easily, okay? You said that you want to explore different things, right? Well, so far here, you've asked about three different arts, and you've been given advice on such aspects of fighting as boxing, wrestling, BJJ, MMA, and stickfighting. I remember a conversation with you in which someone suggested you go try wrestling. You blew them off and said that it would interfere with your boxing training at home. When people suggested ways around that, you got upset and said you were going to do it your way. That is not exploration. Exploring something means you go and give it a try. In martial arts, it often means making a commitment of several months before making up your mind. But that's not what you've done. You've instead decided to dismiss the advice given to you and get upset when people call you on it. The result is that people tend to feel as though they are wasting their time in giving you advice, and they stop taking you seriously. Let me ask a few questions to get things moving in a more positive direction: You said you couldn't train anywhere except your garage until summer. Why? Do you have any training partners, or is this something you have to do all by yourself? Can you afford to actually sign up for lessons someplace, or are paid classes out of the question? How serious are you about wanting to train in something? What kind of equipment do you have that you can work on? Who do you know that's better than you? Can that person act as your coach if people here give you some input? Do you have any idea what types of arts or which particular instructors you like? Could you pick out the differences between say, Dan Inosanto and Paul Vunak? What about between, say, Royce Gracie and Jean-Jacques Machado? Finally, do you have a bike or some other form of transportation that you can use to get to lessons if they're close to home? Do me a favor and answer those questions. I'll take a look at your answers and see if I can offer some good guidance on how to get going on a program that's going to work for you. I understand that you're young, and that's no big deal. But you have to understand that no one here wants to waste their time and effort on someone who's going to ignore their advice. So in exchange for the help I'm offering, you need to get a little less sensitive when people like Michael rightly tell you your previous posts have cast a negative light your direction. Fair?