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Old 04-28-2008, 09:37 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer View Post
How do you know the difference between an "internal strike" and a well-coordinated one, though? I mean, I once trained sporadically with a Tai Chi guy in Marquette Michigan (I did maybe four lessons, and he didn't speak English, so the explanation end of the lessons was sparse to non-existance). He was truly, truly astonishing in his ability, and roughly the same size as Dan Inosanto. He popped me a few times to give me an idea as to how he wanted me to move, and he hit god awful hard for his size. It had that "inside" feel I hear people talk about. However, I've also been hit by Dan Inosanto. It hurt worse. He palmed me in the chest once while talking, and I think he got into me a little harder than he meant to, but it went "BAWHOOM" inside my chest and made my heart skip. He wasn't trying to damage me or anything, but it was the most casual, easy power I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure he wasn't doing anything "internal" specifically, but the effect was very much the same as I hear you guys talking about. I guess that's what leads me to ask the question.

The type of impact in the above two instances was nearly identical, even if the severity wasn't. The Tai Chi instructor obviously wasn't trying to hurt me, so I can understand the fact that he didn't lay into me. But if there's one thing I AM an expert in, it's getting hit. And the sensation of those two was tremendously similar. The type of impact, the sensation, and the way it hurt (if that makes any sense) were so close as to be impossible for me to verbalize any real differences. That's a big part of why I have such a hard time distinguishing from "internal" and just plain old "incredibly well timed and coordinated."
I've heard Dan packs a ferocious slap. Can't say as I can give you an answer though, I've noticed some hellish slaps from Silat people as well. Hitting with relaxed muscles or a dead arm seems to be a common factor though. I know when boar hits the MMA guys they're always shocked and usually make hysterical faces and funny exclamations of sound, and they ask WTF was that?!! Then they ask if he can teach them to hit like that. It seems as though its an extremely refined control of the body so that with little seeming effort he can he can slap the sheeit out of you from about half an inch away.
I've also noticed when he hits people they don't usually get knocked back by the strike allowing the body to lessen the blow and people get almost instant rashes when he slaps them. I've never seen external strikes leave huge raised rashes with hundreds of bumps covering the arm the way boar does when he slaps your arm when you strike at him. He just shrugs and says "I dunno what causes it, Ive seen a lot of people spout mystical mumbo jumbo like chi poisoning (and he rolls his eyes) but I honestly don't know". I do know it doesn't seem to work with punches because you cant make a fist and have relaxed muscles. I began training with his family 40 some odd years ago but I haven't lived it like they do until recently maybe I'll figure it out eventually.
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