04-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Brewer
If the true elements are misconstrued, then yes it can.
The rich gain through monopolies. A one world government would mean most of the rich and powerful would be forced into sharing their corners of the market. It's counter-productive. In that sense, many of the world's richest people stand to lose more than anyone. What happens if good and commodities are regulated the world over by one source? There's far less room for competitive advantage, that's what. The rich lose as much as anyone.
Likewise, if a one world government did actually work (which it can't), the poor would gain more than the rich. Standards of living have historically always gone up rather than down under strong centralized governments. Self fulfillment issues suffer in many ways, as does cultural identity, but the basic standard of living and wealth almost universally increase for the poor. Look at the histories of Empires from Rome onward, and I think you'll find that's true.
I don't mean to dismiss the things you wrote out of hand, and I'll read more of the original source material when I get time. But the boogeyman idea behind concepts like "Pathocrats" is indicative of conspiracy theories all over the place. First, the offenders have to be a group of people that aren't "like us." One of the very first rules of propaganda is that you have to objectify and demonize the intended target. Labelling everyone in politics a "pathocrat" (a made up term to describe a made-up condition that is neither proven nor diagnosable by any scientific means whatsoever) is just one way of doing that. It distracts, and for me such tactics reduce credibility rather than enhance it.
I've got a heavy study load right now, so forgive me if I'm not as well read on your sources as I could be. But I would submit to you that not one person here is more qualified, more experienced, or better trained to spot and assess the means and methods of propaganda than I am. It was a full time job for me, and one in which I excelled. I'm not discounting other opinions, and I'm not claiming to be the world's authority on the matter. Far from it. I'm simply suggesting that as you are obviously far and away more qualified to speak with authority on some topics because of your experience and training, my opinions on this are not just opinions. They are the products of trained analytical processes and many years of hands-on, real-world experience.
As such, I'll grant that you may have some really knowledgable sources and some very credible information that's worth looking into. But I also maintain that in my distanced and objective view, the production posted in the opening of the thread has all the marks of pure propaganda. Each and every category used to analyze such products is present, and each of them detracts from credibility. When you get enough of those boxes checked, the product can be reliably called - in industry terms - bullshit.
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You'll get no argument from me that you're an expert on dispensing BS  which means you're also an expert on sniffing it out.  Thats why I enjoy our debates, you make me think, thank you.
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