Thread: Kung Fu and MMA
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
TigerClaw
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Originally Posted by Jujujason View Post
TC, until some of these 'high level masters' start beating even the average grapplers out there regularly, kung fu won't get the respect that you feel it deserves. Again, the grappler can poke/gouge someone in the eyes, punch someone in the throat, pull hair, bite, scratch, pinch and squeeze someone's balls just as easily as the non-grappler can. All of that being equal, the grappler is still the superior grappler that the kung fu guy doesn't have an answer for. If you like kung fu and think it's good, then great. Keep on keepin' on. Personally, I don't really care what anyone practices. I gave up on trying to wake people up and open eyes about fifteen years ago. If someone doesn't want to spend the time on the mat learning real grappling, then that's on them. That's just one less person that I have to worry about. Peace & good luck.
Hello,

You said that there would be no respect unless the kung fu masters started beating up others. I do not agree there. hey already have respect from centuries of development from war and actual combat of many of the styles.

You also said that the grappler can also just attack the eys groin etc. But I would say that many of them have not trained that way, unlike the kung fu fighters that train that way. Also there is a great amount of technique
involved when we talk of attacking these areas. It is not just some simple thing a kid can do.You are oversimplifying things.

The worst man you would ever want to meet in a real fight and try to grapple him would have been one of my instructors. He would immediately have the vital areas attacked and the grappler would be in great shock. I have seen him fight similar. Because, as I have said, there is a different mindset. As I pointed out in this post, I showed other experts in martial arts agreeing with me and even the military is taking interest in this kind of combat real fighting.

I think it can be dangerous to not inform students of the reality of combat survival type fighting. if the students are only used to practicing for tournaments and sport, then they miss much of what MARTIAL ( or warlike) fighting has to offer.

Again, when I talk of such combat techniques etc, I am only refering to the best in the Kung Fu world, the masters and experts who have developed their style. I am not refering to the Kung Fu people who have only had a few years and who give it all up to become kick boxers in combat.

The way that i teach my students to fight is what I call, "form fighting". Every move and technique can flow into the next and the stances are thee ec. It looks just like fighting in forms. The men who origionated the forms did actually fight like that (I believe). They did not just all fight like so many kick boxers today. Kung Fu fighting is a whole different way of thinking and doing combat. Yes, this kind of fighting takes years to master. but this is the kind of Kung Fu person I am talking about