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Old 12-04-2008, 07:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Garland View Post
The problem with calling scenario training "reality" is that it's...bullshit.

You are in an environment and in a designated time with set rules and responses to a predesigned situation... you're not behind any reactionary gap, cognitively you are aware of what is going on, and you are in the correct psychological mindset. You don't have to decide NOT to engage a real person with real repercussions...and it's not a surprise.

It's about as real as an MMA match, only it's supporters have the extra pretense.
Here we find Garland pulling yet another Brewer move and arguing a point that was never in contention. I'll clear up this last bit of bullsh!t here because I missed this in the first reply.

No one, at least not me, ever stated that modern RBSD systems successfully recreate every single element found in street combat. No has done that, and quite frankly no one has to. The discussion is about what systems address elements found in the street. This discussion is about which systems adhere to and operate under specific RBSD concepts and principles. "Reality based" is a term used to show where the emphasis in training is placed. Nothing more.

Everything started out as a TMA. How modern RBSD got to where it is today was by seasoned and experienced men choosing, tailoring and discarding the techniques that didn't fit in with RBSD maxims. All techniques come from some system, but the approach to using the remaining CQC techniques that weren't discarded is different from all TMA's.

The idea of dueling and competing goes against RBSD's very core principle. Yet dueling and competing are the very essence of sport arts like Muay Thai/kickboxing, boxing, wrestling and the majority of FMA's. The rules found in those disciplines make it possible for the practitioners to compete and still maintain their fighting form.

Otherwise guess what?

We learned from the first couple of UFC's that without those rules and weight classes every practitioner looks like a toughman that resorts to brawling. Only the guys who went immediately to the ground were able to maintain their fighting form when faced with full on aggression. That's how it was then, and that's exactly how it is now. Except we know that going to the ground in the street is a fool's errand, don't we?

I'm not going to waste any more time disputing statements that I never made.
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