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defendu.com · 01-15-2002, 03:38 PM

I agree. To the witnesses, size DOES matter, even though we all know that the skilled smaller guy can decimate big guys.

Just to muddy the waters more, apparently Costin was still wearing protective hockey equipment and skates (no helmet) AND threw the first punch. He was attempting to kick Junta with the skates, but Junta either (three different accounts from witnesses) knelt next to Costin, knelt astride Costin (classic mount position) or knelt with one knee on Costin's chest and rained blows until Costin could not defend himself any longer.

All of us here on the board are used to dealing with these elements, but the average NON-FIGHTER citizen only sees a big guy wailing on a little guy.

Another story that illustrates this concept is a fight that a training partner had (ironically, right after workout, coming out of the dojo) in front of a restaurant that was in the same strip mall.

A big guy mouths off, our guy says something back (I'm pretty sure it was a smart ass remark knowing this guy). The big guy swings, our guy sits back and pulls him into the guard and performs a Kimura arm lock, destroying the big guy's shoulder. Our guy is thinking, "uh-oh, I'm in trouble". Cops come, witnesses say, "The big guy swung at the little guy, they fell to the ground and then the big guy started screaming." Cops cuff the big guy and off he goes.

Remember, witnesses often don't know what they are looking at. They can't testify to what they saw, only to what they THOUGHT they saw.

Also, I have no idea how to pronounce it...the news is saying the J like "jump". Here in the southwest I want to use the Spanish and say "WHO nta"

01-15-2002, 03:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
defendu.com Novice Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Phoenix, Ariz. Posts: 26 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Size DOES matter I agree. To the witnesses, size DOES matter, even though we all know that the skilled smaller guy can decimate big guys. Just to muddy the waters more, apparently Costin was still wearing protective hockey equipment and skates (no helmet) AND threw the first punch. He was attempting to kick Junta with the skates, but Junta either (three different accounts from witnesses) knelt next to Costin, knelt astride Costin (classic mount position) or knelt with one knee on Costin's chest and rained blows until Costin could not defend himself any longer. All of us here on the board are used to dealing with these elements, but the average NON-FIGHTER citizen only sees a big guy wailing on a little guy. Another story that illustrates this concept is a fight that a training partner had (ironically, right after workout, coming out of the dojo) in front of a restaurant that was in the same strip mall. A big guy mouths off, our guy says something back (I'm pretty sure it was a smart ass remark knowing this guy). The big guy swings, our guy sits back and pulls him into the guard and performs a Kimura arm lock, destroying the big guy's shoulder. Our guy is thinking, "uh-oh, I'm in trouble". Cops come, witnesses say, "The big guy swung at the little guy, they fell to the ground and then the big guy started screaming." Cops cuff the big guy and off he goes. Remember, witnesses often don't know what they are looking at. They can't testify to what they saw, only to what they THOUGHT they saw. Also, I have no idea how to pronounce it...the news is saying the J like "jump". Here in the southwest I want to use the Spanish and say "WHO nta" Last edited by defendu.com; 01-15-2002 at 03:44 PM.