wiping the floor with many people no disrespect, but your comments are pretty lame. wiping the floor with many people is a rather ridiculous statement. but i would rather,and have been in a few bar brawls when i was younger, and the friends of mine who boxed, or did wing chun, always did alot of hitting and moving,and were able to get off alot of shots and recieve a few. the friends that grappled that were in these fights, if lucky, slammed someone, or ended up in the corner with one guy. my brother and friend, who both wrestled a little, recently fought like a whole bar, and were able to survive, because of hitting and moving, there was no chance to wrestle, and if the whole bar was really after them, they would have been killed, but only about 10 guys were hitting them, and they ended up being thrown into the parking lot, and just swinging at anyone in sight, and they did quite well, neither of them were hurt bad, and 2 of the other guys had broken noses. now, they will not go back to the bar, and they were targeted, because they were new to that bar, but striking is what saved their ass. my friend is an excellent wrestler, and would have liked nothing better than a one on one with the guy who started the whoile thing, but it never was possible. and as far as indonesian grappling, some similariteis between bjj were true, but the locks were very different, and if you can pull them off, most bjj would never see them coming. there are alot of different ways to lock someone that arent in bjj. gokors grappling seems a bit more like s8ilat, or catch wrestling. did you see the lock pete williams was submitted with recently, alot of these type locks were what i had seen in silat. also, there is no superior art, only superior practicioners |