missed my point i said my friends that were in the village said the stuff in america was watered down, and pa said even the stuff shown to them was watered down in the village, hence what real cimunde is, is not well known outside of indonesia. as far as pa teaching his kids, i cant speculate, but if your lineage claims to have cimunde from a indonesian, i guess it can be traced back to cimunde village? and how long that indonesian studied there, etc. if you heard pa say, that even his father had a hard time finding pure cimunde teachers, before he found out that his own wife knew cimunde, and if uyin had a hard time, i doubt william sanders, and others, really have it. its useless to debate with you, i was once the same way. you are set in your beliefs. did you spar with any indonesians while you were there? your website says you spent some time there, and how long did you actually study withn bangban? also, shannon was american, not dutch, big difference. all im saying, is that even within chinese gung fu, they do not really share the secrets of the art. if pa herman had to pay hundreds of dollars, or wash floors for a year, to learn five techniques from a master, DO YOU THINK HE OR ANYONE IS GIVING IT TO US BECAUSE WE WENT TO SEMINARS, OR A 2 WEEK TRIPTO INDONESIA? |