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CHOKE UK · 05-18-2002, 01:23 PM

Well RYU, many people may train with different strategies.
But from my experience, if you train in proper ground fighting, and i dont mean wrestling,or strict grappelling, which are one dimentional.
But a proper ground fighting art, like gracie bjj, then you deal with reality. Reality says that 9 aot of 10 fights naturally go to ground, therefore thats where you do most of your training, therefore, why would you try and avoid going to ground. Thats the whole idea of it ! If you opponent is trying to strike you, then take away his chosen option !
When you are having a striking type fight, The bigger and stronger oponent has an advantage,(thats why there are weight divisions in boxing ) also many people are very skilled at striking(boxers etc) and the outcome is very unpredictable, you can be a great puncher, unyet still get caught with a sucker punch ! And the fight will end up grappelling/clinching and on the ground anyway!
But on the ground, the more skilled oponent has a huge advantage.
Anyone can throw a street brawlers punch,with little or no training and be relatively effective, but this is not the case with ground fighting techniques.
So someone who is trained in this area, and not wanting to go there, goes against everything i have been taught.
You are taking away your own advantage.
A recipe for disaster !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

05-18-2002, 01:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
CHOKE UK Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: UNITED KINGDOM Posts: 374 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Going to ground........ Well RYU, many people may train with different strategies. But from my experience, if you train in proper ground fighting, and i dont mean wrestling,or strict grappelling, which are one dimentional. But a proper ground fighting art, like gracie bjj, then you deal with reality. Reality says that 9 aot of 10 fights naturally go to ground, therefore thats where you do most of your training, therefore, why would you try and avoid going to ground. Thats the whole idea of it ! If you opponent is trying to strike you, then take away his chosen option ! When you are having a striking type fight, The bigger and stronger oponent has an advantage,(thats why there are weight divisions in boxing ) also many people are very skilled at striking(boxers etc) and the outcome is very unpredictable, you can be a great puncher, unyet still get caught with a sucker punch ! And the fight will end up grappelling/clinching and on the ground anyway! But on the ground, the more skilled oponent has a huge advantage. Anyone can throw a street brawlers punch,with little or no training and be relatively effective, but this is not the case with ground fighting techniques. So someone who is trained in this area, and not wanting to go there, goes against everything i have been taught. You are taking away your own advantage. A recipe for disaster !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!