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Erica · 07-01-2002, 04:51 PM

Hi! Model Mugging/ Impact are awesome programs. In fact, our ESCAPE Program Director, the article writer, trained and instructed with both programs! The ESCAPE Program is also based on the triangle of awareness, intution, and boundary setting.

HAGRIG- I agree "No two self defense situations are the same, we can only train for what our "best guess" might be for a successful defense. There are way too many variables". The article does not say that two situations are the same. In ESCAPE we teach that in every situation a person looks for openings to use a tool. We also emphasize that it is a person's choice if they choose to fight or not. I believe this is much like Moddel Mugging/ IMPACT. I have not had the opportunity to take either or these classes, but have heard only great things about the classes.

I would like to know what assumptions you believe the article talks about.

KLUTEN- I agree that the more options a person has and the more stress training a person has - the more likely they are able to get away from an attacker. Although- I have read many stories of women who had no self defense training and fought their way out of an attack. In the books - THE GIFT OF FEAR by GALVIN DEBECKER and in Her Witts About Her by Cagnion and Roach (spelling?) their is a fight where this woman (one of the authors) fight for 30 minutes and gets away with no SD training! pretty amazing!

Rooke- Thanks for your comments, but I disagree with some of them. I think that still today the majority of woman self defense teachers are guys that are jerks like you were talking about...over and over I go to presentations titled "Women's Self Defense" and it is a jerk guy trying to sell pepper spray or stun guns - telling woman that it is their fault if they go out at night Etc. many martial arts instructor I have met are the same and I truely believe that they are in it for the money that they can make along with teaching regular martial arts etc... so i think a lot of women think - "women's self defense" is blamming and can be held by a really jerk guy.

I have to go and will write more later. It's hard to keep up when you don't have a computer!
Thanks!
erica

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Erica Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 64 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Reply Hi! Model Mugging/ Impact are awesome programs. In fact, our ESCAPE Program Director, the article writer, trained and instructed with both programs! The ESCAPE Program is also based on the triangle of awareness, intution, and boundary setting. HAGRIG- I agree "No two self defense situations are the same, we can only train for what our "best guess" might be for a successful defense. There are way too many variables". The article does not say that two situations are the same. In ESCAPE we teach that in every situation a person looks for openings to use a tool. We also emphasize that it is a person's choice if they choose to fight or not. I believe this is much like Moddel Mugging/ IMPACT. I have not had the opportunity to take either or these classes, but have heard only great things about the classes. I would like to know what assumptions you believe the article talks about. KLUTEN- I agree that the more options a person has and the more stress training a person has - the more likely they are able to get away from an attacker. Although- I have read many stories of women who had no self defense training and fought their way out of an attack. In the books - THE GIFT OF FEAR by GALVIN DEBECKER and in Her Witts About Her by Cagnion and Roach (spelling?) their is a fight where this woman (one of the authors) fight for 30 minutes and gets away with no SD training! pretty amazing! Rooke- Thanks for your comments, but I disagree with some of them. I think that still today the majority of woman self defense teachers are guys that are jerks like you were talking about...over and over I go to presentations titled "Women's Self Defense" and it is a jerk guy trying to sell pepper spray or stun guns - telling woman that it is their fault if they go out at night Etc. many martial arts instructor I have met are the same and I truely believe that they are in it for the money that they can make along with teaching regular martial arts etc... so i think a lot of women think - "women's self defense" is blamming and can be held by a really jerk guy. I have to go and will write more later. It's hard to keep up when you don't have a computer! Thanks! erica