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Erica · 07-01-2002, 07:01 PM

Hagrid-
I have seen IMPACT/Model Mugging and Krav Maga's ads for self defense, but I have only been able to find a statement saying "self defense for women, children, and men" not specifically "Men's Self Defense", like the article is talking about. Do you have a web page or a specific ad you can refer me to as a reference?

Rooke- I have never come in contact with a woman who says they do not want excellent body mechanics.... they all tell me they will learn what they have to - to survive.

You say -"They don't want excellent body mechanics for a power punch, and in many cases don't want to know fatal points to strike either. They're interested in simply doing the least possible damage to escape a situation. (For the record, I disagree with this).

I agree that some woman think, at first, it is gruesome to cause enough dysfunction to escape an attacker, but it is our (as instructors) jobs to tell them that they are worth the fight and that whatever this man has done to them justifies them defending themselves to survive. We teach women to tap into anger and to use it to protect themselves if they choose to fight.t.

You say-"By saying "WOMEN'S Self Defense", it immediately let's women know they its a setting where they don't have to feel threatened. "
I talked about this in the other post - many sd classes are still taught by jerk guys and that the labeling does not mean that women should feel less threatened, etc.

You say"Furthermore, a woman might have different self-defense obstacles than a man (due to society, absolutely). Many fighting positions require mobility and the fist to bring an opponent down. Long nails, high heels, and some clothing might be too restrictive for a woman who might have to wear these as she goes to work. YES, there are better clothes for mobility that are options, but many women don't necessarily go for that (just as many men don't...vanity hits everyone). "

I say - every person (not just gender specific - women and men) has different self defense obstacles - please refer to the past post-
....... by the way ...long nails are great for eye strikes and in our class we tell woman to wear whatever they want to practice in...like work clothes etc..b/c we want them to practice realistically..and high heels are great if you want to kick someone...although it sure takes a lot of practice to get accurate..It was really cool, one time in our "Fight Class" a woman used her bike in a scenario b/c she rode it everywhere and wanted to practice using it as a tool to fight with... it was awesome!Point being - she has different obstacles than woman who don't use a bike.

you say "Now again, my assertions as you see address the perspective of women I've talked to and known. My viewpoint is that they're not aggressive enough. Then again, testosterone might account for my views since the male androgen is responsible for aggression in a normal psychological make-up. "

sorry!!!! I typed this really quick....my spelling and type-o's are horrible!!!!!

I enjoyed debating with you!!!!

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Erica Novice Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 64 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Reply 2 Hagrid- I have seen IMPACT/Model Mugging and Krav Maga's ads for self defense, but I have only been able to find a statement saying "self defense for women, children, and men" not specifically "Men's Self Defense", like the article is talking about. Do you have a web page or a specific ad you can refer me to as a reference? Rooke- I have never come in contact with a woman who says they do not want excellent body mechanics.... they all tell me they will learn what they have to - to survive. You say -"They don't want excellent body mechanics for a power punch, and in many cases don't want to know fatal points to strike either. They're interested in simply doing the least possible damage to escape a situation. (For the record, I disagree with this). I agree that some woman think, at first, it is gruesome to cause enough dysfunction to escape an attacker, but it is our (as instructors) jobs to tell them that they are worth the fight and that whatever this man has done to them justifies them defending themselves to survive. We teach women to tap into anger and to use it to protect themselves if they choose to fight.t. You say-"By saying "WOMEN'S Self Defense", it immediately let's women know they its a setting where they don't have to feel threatened. " I talked about this in the other post - many sd classes are still taught by jerk guys and that the labeling does not mean that women should feel less threatened, etc. You say"Furthermore, a woman might have different self-defense obstacles than a man (due to society, absolutely). Many fighting positions require mobility and the fist to bring an opponent down. Long nails, high heels, and some clothing might be too restrictive for a woman who might have to wear these as she goes to work. YES, there are better clothes for mobility that are options, but many women don't necessarily go for that (just as many men don't...vanity hits everyone). " I say - every person (not just gender specific - women and men) has different self defense obstacles - please refer to the past post- ....... by the way ...long nails are great for eye strikes and in our class we tell woman to wear whatever they want to practice in...like work clothes etc..b/c we want them to practice realistically..and high heels are great if you want to kick someone...although it sure takes a lot of practice to get accurate..It was really cool, one time in our "Fight Class" a woman used her bike in a scenario b/c she rode it everywhere and wanted to practice using it as a tool to fight with... it was awesome!Point being - she has different obstacles than woman who don't use a bike. you say "Now again, my assertions as you see address the perspective of women I've talked to and known. My viewpoint is that they're not aggressive enough. Then again, testosterone might account for my views since the male androgen is responsible for aggression in a normal psychological make-up. " sorry!!!! I typed this really quick....my spelling and type-o's are horrible!!!!! I enjoyed debating with you!!!!