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yenhoi · 10-02-2002, 11:11 AM

quote AKF:

decided to train in that system in order to compete?

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This is the main reason you dont see "kung-fu guys" competing or winning UFC etc. In a sports context, you must train for THAT sports context.

Most "kung-fu guy" schools, do not teach in a sports, UFC, environment, or mindset - most teach in a cardio kickboxing or yoga type environment and mindset - focus on forms, technical ability, what ifs, drills, etc, instead of conditioning, reaction, sparring, attributes, etc.

Athletic-ness must be trained.

Also, what do you mean exactly by kung-fu? Just people who train a Chinese "style" in a so-called "traditional" manner? If so, then check out the San Shou guys, or dudes from pride, etc. Those are full-contact, 'NHB' sports competitions with similar rules as the UFC and other western sports events. Most western "kung-fu" schools do not train in a "traditional" manner, they train in a commercialized, "mcdojo" or "mckwoon" manner, and that is not what prepares people for full-contact sports like cage duels.

You should test your 'fighting ability' and the effectiveness of your training and constantly be questioning your training methods. This does not mean you have to compete in big-ticket, beer guzzling, casino events. It does mean the right mindset or intent, and recognition of your training goals, and actually training with and against resisiting partners, as well as people from other schools and backgrounds.

It is always the individual over the style, training time over talking time, and attribute over technique.

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yenhoi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reno, Nv Posts: 211 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	quote AKF: decided to train in that system in order to compete? - This is the main reason you dont see "kung-fu guys" competing or winning UFC etc. In a sports context, you must train for THAT sports context. Most "kung-fu guy" schools, do not teach in a sports, UFC, environment, or mindset - most teach in a cardio kickboxing or yoga type environment and mindset - focus on forms, technical ability, what ifs, drills, etc, instead of conditioning, reaction, sparring, attributes, etc. Athletic-ness must be trained. Also, what do you mean exactly by kung-fu? Just people who train a Chinese "style" in a so-called "traditional" manner? If so, then check out the San Shou guys, or dudes from pride, etc. Those are full-contact, 'NHB' sports competitions with similar rules as the UFC and other western sports events. Most western "kung-fu" schools do not train in a "traditional" manner, they train in a commercialized, "mcdojo" or "mckwoon" manner, and that is not what prepares people for full-contact sports like cage duels. You should test your 'fighting ability' and the effectiveness of your training and constantly be questioning your training methods. This does not mean you have to compete in big-ticket, beer guzzling, casino events. It does mean the right mindset or intent, and recognition of your training goals, and actually training with and against resisiting partners, as well as people from other schools and backgrounds. It is always the individual over the style, training time over talking time, and attribute over technique. __________________ strike!